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  • Legacy Targa Codec for OSX intel

    Posted by Nate Stephens on May 17, 2008 at 2:28 am

    Did AJA or Blackmagic Design make or have a Targa codec that would allow playback of Cinewave Targa files? If so what was it called? Link? Was it updated for the Intel Mac….

    The client said that the check is in the mail. So now I can upgrade from the old trusty G4 and finally say goodbye to the old beloved Cinewave (damn you Avid).

    But I have all those Hard drives (about 20 – 250gb) with all those old Targa YUV Quicktimes that I don’t want to loose or have to open on the Cinewave and save as basic noncompressed 8 bit .mov files.

    Any thoughts, links or help would be great.. By the way Pinnacles Cinewave site for downloads is now a dead end, their links do not work….

    And hopefully I wont get spanked to hard for trying to get the last breath out of that Cinewave… 🙂

    Thanks

    Nate Stephens replied 18 years, 2 months ago 3 Members · 21 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    May 17, 2008 at 11:00 am

    AJA Kona allows playback of the CineWave files.

    You set up your Sequence using AJA Kona 2Vuy preset (I think that’s what it’s called, I’m not in front of my editing system)

    And then you can edit with your material. You might need to render it all, but you can edit with it.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
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  • Nate Stephens

    May 17, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Thanks Walter,

    Is this a generic available Kona software codec that works on intel Macs without the Kona cards? It is a little hard to fit a Kona card into my MacBook Pro.

    And I am trying to avoid the extra expense of the Kona card on my MacPro upgrade.

    We are moving to P2 and are hoping to duck the need for HD VTRs and the Kona card for another year.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 17, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    If in fact the 2vuy codec will playback Cinewave targas, you can download it here:

    https://www.aja.com/ajashare/AJA_SoftwareCodec.zip

    As far as trying to not get a Kona in your MacPro, how are you planning on monitoring your p2 footage? What do you master to?

  • Walter Biscardi

    May 17, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    [Nate Stephens] “Is this a generic available Kona software codec that works on intel Macs without the Kona cards? It is a little hard to fit a Kona card into my MacBook Pro.”

    Then you’ll have to see if the regular Io series or IoHD supports the codec. I don’t think you can use the codec without an AJA product.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    Biscardi Creative Media
    HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 17, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    [walter biscardi] “I don’t think you can use the codec without an AJA product. “

    You can. It’s a software codec that AJA makes available to people that don’t have Kona cards:

    Selfless bunch aren’t they?

    AJA Macintosh QuickTime™ Codec v4.0
    If you do not have a KONA card in your Macintosh, but need to access AJA QuickTime media files, you can use this AJA QuickTime codec to work with the files.

    Jeremy

  • Nate Stephens

    May 17, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Jeremy, Thanks for the link and your kind words “Selfless bunch aren’t they?”

    That is why I love the Cow, All this LUV being shared….. and on a Saturday… 😉 . but your right and if you buy my AB roll Betacam SP suite (still works) I can use the proceeds either on paying off its’ 20 year bank note or maybe buy the Kona and a nice Raid 5 Sata array… Please make an offer… shipping not included…

    “”As far as trying to not get a Kona in your MacPro, how are you planning on monitoring your p2 footage? What do you master to? ”

    And this is the rub… My recent survey of HD Spot deliverables in our area trends towards FTP, DVD-rom and Blue Ray as the emerging local acceptable standards.. I will still have my trusty G4 -Cinewave for any Betacam SP or DVcam tapes. For HDcam mastering I will follow Walters lead on finding a local/regional shop that will take DVD-rom, ftp or Hard drives with the DVCproHD / Quicktimes to master from.

    For critical monitoring and color correction, I think Shanes MXO is the target. The question I have is, does the Matrox Duel or Triple Head adaptors really work, or is it cheaper to get a second monitor card. The goal is to use an ACD as the broadcast monitor via MXO and 2 Dells (if David W. still loves his new ones).

    Will it work? With out bugs? AM I cutting the tech too tight? I would love a Kona 3 and a Big Panasonic or JVC HD monitor, but my main client cut 15K from my summer budget..

    SO the big question is, can I cut 15K from my Federally mandated HD upgrade? The HVX200 is here. The HPX500 sans lens is ordered. The MacPro will edit DVCpro HD using internal raid, so I can delay the external sata raid (and still not sleep any better). Russel L swears by his 2.8 MacPro which saves $1,600 (off the 3.2) that will buy the 4 (maybe 6) gigs of ram and Western Digitals that Walter likes.

    Can I delay buying a HDcam or Pana 1400, Kona 3, Sata external raid, HD broadcast monitor and HD CAC lens for the HPX500 for a year, pay my bills and still grow my business??

    Now that is the Big question…

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 17, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    You’re welcome.

    You want my honest opinion? Don’t get the MXO. it works, it’s fine, but it’s pretty specific in what it does. Also, don’t go for this dual head triple head stuff and a second graphics card. you are only asking for trouble.

    You don’t have to get a Kona3, get a Kona LHe. That will be perfect for you and will save you some dough.

    Until you can find the cash for a decent monitor, get a dell and hook up the component inputs of the LHe to the Dell. When you can afford to get a decent monitor, get one. That way you won’t have to buy a Kona AND a monitor when the time comes, you will just need the monitor.

    Yes, save some money on the processor if you can’t afford it right now. No big deal.

    [Nate Stephens] “Can I delay buying a HDcam or Pana 1400, Kona 3, Sata external raid, HD broadcast monitor and HD CAC lens for the HPX500 for a year, pay my bills and still grow my business?? “

    You have to spend wisely. You can get away with a fancy array for now (if you can afford to backup), you can ‘get away’ with a fancy monitor for right now, but you can’t get away from getting video in and out of your machine. Without that, you are hosed. ALso, the Kona will scale up as your business grows. You can most definitely delay the purchase of an HD deck as long as you have a decent dub house in the area. An MXO and an ACD is a waste of money for YOUR situation. Get a Kona and a Dell, then when the time comes, get a real HD monitor and make the dell a computer monitor. Also, get as much RAM as you can afford with 8GBs being a minimum. 8Gigs from transintl.com is $368.00. There’s no excuse not to get it.

    Jeremy

  • Nate Stephens

    May 17, 2008 at 8:51 pm

    But does the Kona LHe uprez SD to HD ??? As well as the Kona 3? The LHe has the component inputs from Betacam SP correct.. But not the Uprez and cross transcode from 720 to 1080.. I did not know the Dell had component inputs, that very interesting..

    Looks like more Googling in my future.. Thanks Jeremy

    But I could use the MXO with our MacBook Pro….. hmmmmmm….

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 17, 2008 at 9:19 pm

    [Nate Stephens] “But does the Kona LHe uprez SD to HD ???”

    No, it does not up convert or cross convert and neither will the MXO as it doesn’t even input video. You need a Kona3 or ioHD for that. You can use the ioHD with your laptop too, but it’s expensive. Just trying to save you money.

    Jeremy

  • Nate Stephens

    May 18, 2008 at 1:45 am

    “Just trying to save you money”

    I appreciate the thought. And that is one of my targets.. Everything in the HD upgrade from cash flow… NO CREDIT CARDS ALLOWED…

    Products that I can repurpose later like the MXO, works with MacPro and Laptop have that extra value.

    My target is uprez and cross convert or the Kona 3. but not right now .. The Kona Lhe is a PCIe card correct and great for Betacam and SD input… and this is were I need to google..Kona LHe

    My targets are not to purchase anything that is not a bullseye or a device that can be repurposed for field / laptop use.. I have a lot of wonderful gear all SD, all in working condition (AB roll betacam) that is rotting from no use… So I am very aware of investing in gear that has a limited life span in our projected workflow, which is all P2…

    The trick is to purchase the right gear,,, that works together,, as advertised and meets the maximum requirements at the least price…

    It can be dangerous, risky, and lonely, being your own VAR / edit room designer… But that is the value of these Cow discussions.. And I do appreciate the experienced input from the herd…

    And someday maybe I will syndicate an Edit room Makeover show… “Flip that Edit Suite”
    Think we can get Bob Zelin to quest star,,, “get those IT people out of here, they don’t know video” 😉

    Thanks for your thoughts Jeremy,,

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