KONA 3 vs. KONA LHi

[Shane Ross]

A other big difference is that the Kona 3 has 12 channels of embedded audio via SDI and the LHi has only 8 channels.

While I really want the LHi, I need to output 10 channels of audio to hdcam SR. So the Kona 3 is what I need

But man that LHi is appealing.

Shane

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[Chris Borjis]

[Shane Ross] “A other big difference is that the Kona 3 has 12 channels of embedded audio via SDI and the LHi has only 8 channels.”

NNNNNOOOOOOO!

dangit. and here I thought I’d be all set with an LHi and a RED Rocket.

Damn.

[Pat Mcgowan]

Alright Gary so where do you draw the line? I see in a post right below this thread that you actually directed someone to the B&H website. Please correct me if I’m wrong but I did not get the impression that Gary Bettan was selling anything when you admonished him a few posts back in this thread, all he did was attach his contact info and company slogan to his post. Or is he a chronic thread pitcher? It really makes no difference to me but I thought the tone of you response to him was rather sharp.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Pat McGowan] “Please correct me if I’m wrong but I did not get the impression that Gary Bettan was selling anything when you admonished him a few posts back in this thread, all he did was attach his contact info and company slogan to his post.”

Here’s the difference.

Resellers trolling the forums for sales leads. This is frowned upon across the entire Cow community and generally these posts are removed. The Cow is free to users thanks to the advertisers who support this Cow. If you want to get sales leads from the Cow, then pay for advertising, don’t troll the forums.

Recommendations from users. This is standard because the user is not selling anything. They are passing along information about where to get a product to another user and they get nothing in return for the lead. This is where the Cow is the strongest because you want honest opinions on products and companies based on user experience, not a salesman.

Here’s an honest opinion, I do not purchase from and would never recommend B&H to anyone. That’s from my own personal experience.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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[Pat Mcgowan]

That’s fair enough Walter but end-users are not the only folks in here, nor should they be. Manufacturers, dealers and sales folks are a valuable part of the community so I would hate to think they won’t participate. It’s a fine line……

[Gary Adcock]

[Chris Borjis] “suppose you have the Kona-Lhi and the Red Rocket.
then you can do 4k output if you want without the kona3 that can’t yet do 4k.
“

nope…
RED Rocket is not shipping yet,
the LHI is limited to a max 1920 x 1080 frame raster.

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[Gary Adcock]

PAT,

WTF? I have not posted anything that recommended that anyone to B&H.
The only like I have posted was to an FREE Red event that I am speaking at in the RED forum. It was posted in one forum, one time.

I asked GaryB to back off on the pitch, – it is Cow policy to limit sales posts by companies that do not also advertise on the Cow- GaryB was very polite and I let the matter go since he acted as a professional should {IMHO}.

I thought that was the end of the story

It is one thing to have an individual post a link to a site – but another altogether when a person is posting the same sales only info multiple times in multiple forums at once as part of their job descriptions (ie: Why HDExpo is no longer allowed to post info here)

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[Pat Mcgowan]

end of story

[Gary Adcock]

[Pat McGowan] ” Manufacturers, dealers and sales folks are a valuable part of the community so I would hate to think they won’t participate. It’s a fine line…… “

Pat
it was not just one forum, walter and I see all of the posts from dozens or more of the forums- if the same post is popping up across all of them, we say something.

Go back an look at the post list on this thread – many of GaryB’s posts have been removed ( looks like 3-5 of them) I do not want to see someone give as much help as he has, then have the many of thier posts removed because of issues like this.

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[Jeremy Garchow]

[Chris Borjis] “suppose you have the Kona-Lhi and the Red Rocket. “

I’d imagine you’d need two machines. Also, it wholly depends on your Red workflow. Even if you do master beyond 2K, where are you going to play it?

For all itents and purposes, 1920×1080 is damn near 2K, it’s just that 2kers don’t want to admit they are really shooting HD. ;-D

Jeremy