Kona 3 and sony J30SDI

[Walter Biscardi]

Do you have a proper RS-422 cable connected to the deck and the Kona? We run the J3/902 deck here, we’ve had it probably 5 or 6 years now and it works just fine.

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[Tony Rhodes]

Hi Walter.
No, I haven’t connected anything other than the SDI cable to the deck.
I have used other decks before and never had to connect the rs422 cable and managed to get deck control.

Does the J30-sdi need this RS422 connected in addition to the SDI cable?

thanks
tony

[Walter Biscardi]

[tony rhodes] “No, I haven’t connected anything other than the SDI cable to the deck.
I have used other decks before and never had to connect the rs422 cable and managed to get deck control. “

When using Firewire, you can do this. SDI is video and audio only.

For professional decks with RS-422 control, you must get an RS-422 cable.

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[Tony Rhodes]

Ok thanks Walter
I must have been mistaken as I was sure I have controlled a deck before only using an SDI cable.

I’ll have to check the previous deck thta I used.

In my head I thought the RS422 was to control analog decks when using component video connections etc..

cheers
Tony.

[Bob Zelin]

Tony,
you don’t need to “check” anything.
This is what you are going to do. You are going to order this cable.
https://www.markertek.com/Cables-Connectors-Adapters/Computer-Data-Cables/9-Pin-D-Sub-Cables/TecNec-Cables-Connectors/D9M-F-6.xhtml

If your boss says “why do we have to spend any money, you figure out how to make it work without this cable” – you take this computer you are reading this reply on, and throw it at your bosses head.

HOWEVER, if you don’t feel like doing this, find the original breakout harness that came with the AJA Kona 3 (you still have it, don’t you?) – this came with the 9 pin RS422 cable part built in. I assume you are currently using the AJA K3 breakout box. Well, when you plug in this “octopus” harness that came with the Kona 3 (which goes where the K3 cables go right now), you will have the 9 pin cable that you can quickly demonstrate to your boss, that it works great with the 9 pin cable plugged in – and so you NEED TO ORDER THE CORRECT CABLE.

All professional VTR’s work this way.

Bob Zelin

[Walter Biscardi]

[tony rhodes] “I must have been mistaken as I was sure I have controlled a deck before only using an SDI cable. “

Nope. It’s audio/video/TC only. No machine control protocol.

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[Walter Biscardi]

[Bob Zelin] “If your boss says “why do we have to spend any money, you figure out how to make it work without this cable” – you take this computer you are reading this reply on, and throw it at your bosses head. “

BRILLIANT!!! This may be your single most greatest reply yet.

We really need to start a Sticky Post somewhere on these forums just called Zelisms.

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[Chris Tompkins]

Bob,

U really gotta take it easy man, ur going to give urself a heart attack.
The guy didn’t know he needed a RS422 cable – That’s why we’re here.

Chris Tompkins
Video Atlanta

[Tony Rhodes]

Thanks for all your help.
Having checked the studio configuration / video rack a little deeper I found that in fact there is an rs422 cable connected to the sony J30, but this is connected to a BlackMagic-Design VideoHub that was installed some time ago.

This has 16x rs422 connections, one of which travels under the floor to this Mac Pro but is plugged into a AJA IO. I have moved this and connected it to the Kona 3 cable RS422 connection, but get nothing, no video, no deck control. If I bypass the videohub by connecting the SDI cables together I get Video IO but using the VideoHUB I get nothing.
I cannot bypass the RS422 on the video hub as the distance between the machine in the video rack makes it difficult.

I have installed the VideoHub software, but all options are blank and have no ability to manage the connections. The videohub is connected direct to this mac using the USB connection.

Does anyone know about the videoHub here, it’s asking for an IP address for the videohub, how do i find that?

struggling with the BMD software / hardware..

thanks for any advice.
tony

[Walter Biscardi]

For your purposes it seems to me it would be much simpler for you to just run a cable direct between the deck and the Kona so you can get your project done. Then figure out the hub thing later. If you really want help with the hub, this is the wrong forum for that, go over to the BlackMagic forum or contact their tech support directly.

We have some really simple patch panels in our shop for video, audio and machine control, thanks to Bob Zelin.

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