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  • Jumpy playback in Premiere

    Posted by Dylan Evans on February 21, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Hi,
    I am a relativly new user to Premiere Pro but have a fair bit of experience using Avid. Iv’e decided to use Premiere for this project due to its easy interoperability with After Effects.

    However in Premiere when playing back footage taken directly from a Sony XDCAM-EX PMW-EX3. The footage is shot in 1920 x 1080/25P [mp4].

    However when playing this video back in either the source or sequence monitor the video is very jumpy, it will play the first two seconds smoothly and then start to jump. This is very frustrating and hard to work with when im trying to preview what I have edited. This problem is still apparent if I render the video on the timelime prior to playback.

    I dont beleive it is a hardware problem as my system is very high end, and to add to this the footage plays back smoothly in XDCAM viewer.

    If it is a codec problem and un-solvable then is there another codec I can ask Premiere to encode tp that will be completely lossless, the video will have effects added to it and our director is awfully fond of playing with post pro lighting, meaning any loss of information could show up during these stages.

    Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

    Adobe Suite CS4
    Windows Vista Ultimate
    Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.4ghz
    4gb memory (vista only recognises 3gb)
    Asus P5NT Deluxe Motherboard
    Nvidia Geforce 8800GT (latest drivers from Nvidia)

    Martin Frericks replied 16 years, 7 months ago 7 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    February 22, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Just edited EX3 footage recently and the playback was fine. The system is no better than yours, so I would vote for a bottleneck in your system or a wrong sequence setting.

    First, I would make sure to hit update to make sure you have the latest version.

    What is your drive configuration?

    Are you previewing through a third party card as well (AJA, Blackmagic,matrox) ?

    Are you seeing a render line in the sequence ?

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Todd Roush

    February 22, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    I’ve noticed that CS4 freezes up if I have my camera/deck connected via the firewire. Noticed this by accident after my freelancer got so frustrated with Premiere that he quit. Not sure what is causing it…only in Vista 64 on 1 HP laptop while the other HP laptop with 32 does not seem to have an issue with it.

    Good luck.

    Best,

    Todd

    Todd Roush
    Dreamscape Digital Media
    Panny DVX-100’s but changing so Sony or Cannon HDV soon.

  • Simon Davis

    February 24, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    I have exactly the same problem, as I’ve posted on here before. I’m using Premiere CS4.01 with Sony EX1 HDCAM EX footage (1920×1080 25p). I’m using the correct Sequence (HDCAM EX 1080p (HQ)) and my system is a Core i7 940 (2.93GHz stabiliy overclocked to 3.4GHz) – 8 cores effectively, 3GB DDR3 memory, nVidia 9600GT 512MB graphics card and WD VelociRaptor HDD (10000rpm). This is enough to cope with editing HD video, I would have thought.

    I get jumpy playback, that’s intermittant. I find that rendered video is often worse. I’m using draft quality playback and the CPU isn’t heavily loaded. The video jumps and stalls along with the audio. I’ve tried a number of things. I’ve even taken the overclocking off and stopped the processor SpeedStepping.

  • Dylan Evans

    February 25, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Right, well i had alot of hardware problems, was getting complete computer freezes, so during the process of elimination as to what hardware bit was causing it I had to reinstall Vista. On the fresh install I dont seem to have a problem.

    Interestingly enough infact I am using a graphics card i dug out of the cupboard for the aforementioned reason, which i beleive is a radeon x300 so i have effectivly downgraded, but nevertheless the problem has vanished.

  • Nick Schale

    June 2, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    So, I am wondering what is the best sequence settings for ex cam. I am having a ton of problems with cs4 and am thinking (PRAYING) it is a user error.

    Project: 2hr long recital where we had three Sony EX-1 cameras. All shooting 1920x1080p (HQ). And there are two shows, but I’ll edit them in different projects.

    In CS3, I would start the project and just pull the footage in… no problem everything played fine. Then when I upgraded to CS4 it was CHOPPY to the point I could not edit.

    Sequence Settings: General:

    Editing Mode: Desktop. But was the EX1 1920×1080 hq by default… but that wasnt working. So far, Desktop is the only thing that has even let video show up… if I import only 25minutes of footage, it plays back smooth! NOTHING has worked like this, so is Desktop the way to go?

    Video Previews: I-Frame Only MPEG
    I really do think this is where the problem is. The video is killing me, audio plays back like a champ (if i turn off the video and press play). I dont know enough about this to know if I am correct or not. Should I do I-frame or AVI? and if AVI which Codec? Also, should i click max bit depth and render quality? i’d assume no for a preview.

    Thanks a million for any help!!!

    System
    Dual Core 2 6600 (2.4GHz)
    8 GB ddr2
    64-bit vista prem
    NVIDIA GeForce 8800GT
    1.5 TB of storage
    OS Drive is a Raptor 10k

    I am on my way to work now to get CS3 to downgrade. /sigh.

  • Vince Becquiot

    June 2, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    My guess is the playback hits a bottleneck either on the CPU or harddrive side. For 1080p you would usually need a RAID setup (you didn’t mention what your storage setup is) , unless you are editing native XDCam, which you can’t do in CS3. It would be worth trying to playback one of the preview files by itself in Windows Media Player and see if you are getting a smooth playback.

    The CPU may also not be able to process what’s thrown at it in desktop mode. I think that’s the one we have in our HP laptop, and I doubt it’ll playback 1080p in any flavor.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Aaron Grech

    September 14, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    Hi,
    I am having the same, identical problem you were having with jumpy EX3 footage playback in CS4. However, in my case, when I did re-format the PC, the problem persisted. I would be extremely grateful if you could give me details of your setup, and the difference in hardware / software between the problematic install and the correct install.

    Thanking you in anticipation,
    Aaron Grech

  • Martin Frericks

    October 2, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    I have exactly the same problem. I’m using Adobe CS4 and the 35Mbit/s material from the PMW-EX1 plays back extremely jumpy. The 25Mbit/s material from the camera plays back fine.

    The videos also play back fine in VLC player and the playback in Sony Vegas 9 is also fine. This seems to be a Premiere related problem, not hardware related.

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  • Vince Becquiot

    October 2, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    Are you seeing a render bar?

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Aaron Grech

    October 3, 2009 at 7:44 am

    In my case, I solved the problem by dumping the nVidia graphics card with an ATI, specifically a 3870 512Mb from ASUS. The playback, which was unbearably jumpy, is now silky smooth. No other modifications either to hardware or software were necessary.

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