Jan: A P2 product suggestion, _not_ HVX200-related. :)

[Ralph Keyser]

Peter,

Were you thinking about a deck that recorded to P2 cards or to tape?
It’s probably a good idea either way 🙂

cheers,
Ralph

[Steve Mahrer]

Peter;

You mean like the unit we announced at the NAB… a small field recorder, Video I/O, SDI I/O, HD-SDI I/O
USB2.0 and IEE1394. Unit has 4 P-2 slots, SD slot, 7″ HD LCD, “VTR” like control panel for cueing, REC/PB control etc. The unit was about 10″ x 10″ x 3″, 12V power etc. It was under one of the glass preview bubbles, on the floor by the AG-HVX200 area.

Steve Mahrer – Panasonic Corp North America (PNA)

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[Ralph Keyser] “Were you thinking about a deck that recorded to P2 cards or to tape? It’s probably a good idea either way :-)”

P2 based. Panasonic already sells tape-based decks in various sizes, shapes & prices.

Of course, if they want to throw in a miniDV tape transport, that’s OK with me, since a miniDV transport is essentially free. Of course, the miniDV tape would only record DV25. The P2 cards would handle that & everything else.

The key thing would be for the P2 deck to to be small, battery-operable and to have modular I/O. Maybe it would only have Firewire, composite & s-video built-in as standard, but it should allow for optional analog component, SDI & HD-SDI video, too.

A device like this might really make Sony nervous, thinking about all the pro Sony camcorders people would hook up to it out in the field & studio. Once users got hooked on using P2, they might be less inclined to buy into XDCAM & HDCAM.

All the best,

– Peter

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[Steve Mahrer] “You mean like the unit we announced at the NAB… a small field recorder, Video I/O, SDI I/O, HD-SDI I/O USB2.0 and IEE1394. Unit has 4 P-2 slots, SD slot, 7” HD LCD, “VTR” like control panel for cueing, REC/PB control etc. The unit was about 10″ x 10″ x 3″, 12V power etc. It was under one of the glass preview bubbles, on the floor by the AG-HVX200 area.”

Hi, Steve: I think the best response to this bit of news is: “Shut up!” 🙂

Sorry, I wasn’t at NAB this year, and hadn’t heard about it. Is there a press release or other info on the web? Price?

Thanks Steve!

All the best,

– Peter

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[Jan Crittenden livingston]

Now Peter,

Be nice to Steve, he was only pulling your leg. 😉 What you didn’t hear what his Monty Python sense of British humor.

Anyhow there was a cool little machine that was in a glass case and it was a fishing expedition. It did virtually everything you say plus a monitor. They were really undesided on a price but input is welcome.

Best,

Jan

Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems

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[Jan Crittenden Livingston] “Now Peter, Be nice to Steve, he was only pulling your leg. 😉 What you didn’t hear what his Monty Python sense of British humor. …”

Hi, Jan: Hehe … I was being nice: “Shut up!” is valley-talk for “No sh*t!”, as in “Whoa! You’re kidding? Cool!!!”. 🙂

Like that.

[Jan Crittenden Livingston] “… Anyhow there was a cool little machine that was in a glass case and it was a fishing expedition. It did virtually everything you say plus a monitor. They were really undesided on a price but input is welcome.”

In some respects the unit as described is a HVX200 without the camera section, and with a bigger LCD monitor.

If the higher-end I/O features were offered as “reasonably priced” options (which makes sense to me), then my guess is it should sell for about 1/2 – 2/3 the price of an HVX200 (with no P2 cards.)

If the high-end I/O features were built-in, then bewteen 2/3 to equal the price of an HVX200 seems about right. Although I suspect it could be sold for considerably less and be profitable. Of course, if it were _really_ inexpensive it would completely freak Sony out, and make a lot of video production people very happy. 😉

All the best,

– Peter

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[Rodrigo Lizana]

This machine sound like a great idea. Specially for Varicam users in order to go directly to P2 using the 10 bit output. I

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[Rodrigo Lizana] “… About price I trust Panasonic policy. 10K for field design like 1200A ? 🙂 …”

Hi Rodrigo: I hear you, but I’m hoping Panasonic thinks P2 is all about the “blades” rather than the “razor”. In other words, P2 enables them to make P2-based player/recorder/cam hardware (the “razor”) much, much less expensive than tape-based technology, and they’ll make the biggest part of their profit by selling P2 cards (the “blades”).

I understand “10K” USD is about half the MSRP price for a 1200A DVCRPRO-HD deck, but it would be a huge kick in the pants for the industry if Panasonic made a little do-everything P2 field recorder available very inexpensively. Since Panasonic wants us to think of P2 as “memory”, not “media”, then perhaps P2 hardware should be priced more like top brandname PC/Mac hardware, including the price of add-in option cards.

P2 opens-up a lot of interesting opportunities.

I wonder if Sony will counter with a “Super Memory Stick”; a MemoryStick on steroids? 😉

All the best,

– Peter

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[Rodrigo Lizana]

The cheaper the better for me !!! but seing the AJ-SPD850 DVCPRO 50 P2 studio deck at U$ 15.000
one could imagine a DVCPRO HD P2 field deck somewhere near that.
A great use I see for a VTR like the one we

[Steve Mahrer]

Rodrigo:

1/. The Field Recorder conecpt we showed will feature a choice of DV / DVCPRO / DVCPRO 50 / DVCPRO HD native compression with the appropriate MXF wrapper + metadata etc, it will then “record” the data to P-2 cards. The CODEC will thus be identical to that in our conventional cameras / VTRs. The additional Metadata and the IT “plugability” of the P-2 format will however greatly enhance the flexibility. Think of a VariCam recording to the field unit, then just plug the P-2 card into the laptop or NLE…. cool eh?

2/. No, I’m not from England, but I’m British (hence my dry sense of humour and the correct spelling!)

3/. I’ll let Jan deal with “little Devil” questions… 😉

Cheers!

Steve