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  • It’s like someone went nuts with the contrast

    Posted by Randall Murphy on September 18, 2007 at 1:22 am

    I’ve been working on an AE project. Did everything I could to make my final render great. Put it in Sorenson Squeeze to output a great looking 2gig mpeg2, getting it Encore ready and then when it’s authored, it looks terrible. The colors aren’t stable, the contrast is through the roof. I’ve tried with transcoding and without. Nothing works. Why does it degrade the video so much? Is there a better way to get great looking DVD’s?

    Steve Roberts replied 18 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Steve Roberts

    September 18, 2007 at 11:49 am

    Did you post in the DVD Authoring COW?

  • Randall Murphy

    September 18, 2007 at 3:14 pm

    Of course I did, but I’m in a hurry, and have you looked in that forum? Very few posts and even fewer answers. Everyone from this forum knows about burning to DVD’s. Another guy had my SAME problem back in early August and no replies.

  • Sam Moulton

    September 18, 2007 at 3:42 pm

    I get the best results by rendering to lossless or nearly lossless files and letting Encore do the transcoding.

  • Steve Roberts

    September 18, 2007 at 3:46 pm

    I see your point. We’re a victim of our own success in this forum.

    … and as for the “of course I did”, keep in mind that many people don’t know there are COW Forums other than AE, so they post all their problems here. 🙂

    So.
    Theoretically, authoring (without specifically re-encoding) should not change the video, but you knew that. However, I’ve found that software players can really make the video look ugly.

    I like Compressor for MPEG-2 compression, using 2-pass VBR.
    Did you use 2-pass VBR?
    How did you play your MPEG-2 before authoring? QT Player?
    Can you put that in a window side-by-side with the DVD in a window, and compare?
    Did you try playing your final DVD on multiple setups, computers and set-tops?

    (side note: I’ve dabbled with MegaPEG Pro to compress, but found it’s good at squeezing extra data onto the disc, not necessarily improving quality significantly.)

  • Steve Roberts

    September 18, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    … I should say I’m on a Mac and use DVD Studio Pro.

  • Randall Murphy

    September 18, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    Hopefully, I get good results with what I’m doing now. When I rendered the movie originally, it was at lossless video for windows setting. To me it looked better than lossless AVI. This may be the problem. I keep seeing posts about making lossless AVI’s. So, I’ve just rendered the movie (the original windows for video rendered to 52 gigs, the AVI to 72 gigs.) Right now I’m taking a run at Encore encoding it at high qual. 1 pass C 8mb. Next, I’ll try 2 pass V and compare. I tried to load it into sorenson squeeze, the movie file went into the project window, but the hourglass just sat there, and the hard drive wasn’t doing anything. Dunno about that one. If I can get sorensen to work, I’ll go for a high qual mpeg2 and compare again. Hopefully, it’s the switch to AVI that will do it. Kind of frustrating to spend three months, 12 hour days on something that looks great, you’re pumped and then major dissapointment. Thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it.

  • Steve Roberts

    September 18, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    Well you know, if Encore will take lossless WMV, and it looks good, hey, do it. Let us know which process works best.

  • Randall Murphy

    September 18, 2007 at 5:58 pm

    It looks just the same. Skin tones are blown out and it looks awful. I don’t know what others are doing, but this is my first project and it’s really dissapointing. The mpeg2 shrunk down to 2 gigs and it looks great. Even when I used this file and put it into Encore with no transcoding, it looked the same. It looks the same on two different computers and my television. Oh well. Since it’s a marketing piece, I’m thinking about droping it into macromedia director and see how that goes.

  • Steve Roberts

    September 18, 2007 at 6:15 pm

    How are you viewing the nice MPEG2? In which app?

  • Randall Murphy

    September 18, 2007 at 6:23 pm

    windows media player. I’ve got the movie being compressed to avi now. I want to see how it will play in quicktime. Funny thing is this is probably a blessing. The Director file might end up being a better tool. My clients I sent the first draft to, many of them didn’t even watch it yet. But, if i have something they can load right on thier computers at the office, they might have a greater impulse to watch it right then and there…the convenience. Plus, I can have links to my website. HOpefully, it will have a high quality output.

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