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  • Nate Weaver

    June 22, 2011 at 4:40 am

    Buy a damn copy of FCS3 on Ebay. Sheesh.

    Nate Weaver
    Director/D.P., Los Angeles
    https://www.nateweaver.net

  • Andrew Richards

    June 22, 2011 at 4:41 am

    [Jeff Bernstein] “There is a lot of focus on those ho already have FCP7. Just don’t upgrade. Fine. But happen to thbose folks that already have a couple of seats of FCP7, work on a SAN, need those features in FCP7 that are missing in FCPX AND need to add more licenses?”

    I saw a copy for sale at B&H today. I bet they have a whole pallet of them in the warehouse.

  • Tom Daigon

    June 22, 2011 at 4:43 am

    “It is also probably just as big a leap from FCP7 as Premiere Pro or Media Composer would be.”

    Andrew, unfortunately this is a good indication of your limited experience with other editing software. From FCP 7 to PPCS5 is like falling off a log. The keyboard can be mapped exactly the same and the GUI uses the same concepts with lots more enhancements for productivity.
    We all have difference projects, clients and technical requirements. If yours is such that its not an issue now or in the future, by all means tough it out. After 30 years of editing I find following my gut instinct is the way to avoid disasters and make my clients happy with video I am proud of. Each to their own.

    Tom Daigon
    Avid DS / FCP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com

  • John Davidson

    June 22, 2011 at 4:44 am

    We just turned around a small emergency project this evening that paid for Final Cut Pro X three times over. We exclusively used X and nothing else. If it’s all about business, any program that pays for itself on the first day is a winner, IMHO.

    John Davidson | President / Creative Director | Magic Feather Inc.

  • Craig Seeman

    June 22, 2011 at 4:47 am

    Hmm, it’s either really intuitive or you blew through the manual and/or the tutorials being sold in record time.

    If you’ve got a good story, Apple’s going to be featuring it.

  • Chris Kenny

    June 22, 2011 at 4:57 am

    [Jeff Bernstein] “There is a lot of focus on those ho already have FCP7. Just don’t upgrade. Fine. But happen to thbose folks that already have a couple of seats of FCP7, work on a SAN, need those features in FCP7 that are missing in FCPX AND need to add more licenses?”

    Even though it’s no longer for sale from Apple, software products, with the cost of production being so low, tend to ship a lot of units into the channel, and they’ll probably be kicking around and generally available for quite some time. Particularly since FCP X actually is a suitable replacement for FCP 7 for some users, and from a licensing perspective FCP X is not an upgrade to Final Cut Studio 3, so those users are now, as far as I can tell, perfectly free to sell off their copies of FCS 3.


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  • Andrew Kimery

    June 22, 2011 at 5:01 am

    Even if they come in 6 months or so I’ll know I’m the mistress and not the main squeeze. I’m not sure how I feel about begging for table scraps that may or may not come…

    How’s that for mixing some metaphors?!

    -Andrew

    3.2GHz 8-core, FCP 6.0.4, 10.5.5
    Blackmagic Multibridge Eclipse (6.8.1)

  • Matt Callac

    June 22, 2011 at 5:04 am

    [John Davidson] “We just turned around a small emergency project this evening that paid for Final Cut Pro X three times over. We exclusively used X and nothing else. If it’s all about business, any program that pays for itself on the first day is a winner, IMHO.”

    I think this makes you the official winner for the day. And here I was thinking Chris Kenny was the Winner seeing as he’s been the voice of reason all day.

    -mattyc

  • Andrew Richards

    June 22, 2011 at 5:08 am

    [Tom Daigon] “Andrew, unfortunately this is a good indication of your limited experience with other editing software. From FCP 7 to PPCS5 is like falling off a log. The keyboard can be mapped exactly the same and the GUI uses the same concepts with lots more enhancements for productivity. “

    Fair enough, the leap to PPCS5 isn’t that far (I’ve dabbled in it a little, but never saw the need to immerse). But certainly the leap from FCP7 to MC5 is significant enough to give one pause. The point is that FCPX is a pivot point for anyone who has been earning a living on FCP up to now.

    [Tom Daigon] “We all have difference projects, clients and technical requirements. If yours is such that its not an issue now or in the future, by all means tough it out. After 30 years of editing I find following my gut instinct is the way to avoid disasters and make my clients happy with video I am proud of. Each to their own.”

    Tough what out? I still fail to see why continuing to use FCP7 is such a nonstarter. If FCPX doesn’t suit you today, don’t buy it. If it never suits you, never buy it. If FCP7 hasn’t suited you for the last 12 months, why haven’t you already abandoned it for PPCS5 or MC5?

    This whole thread is about not taking the feature set of FCPX as a personal insult from Apple.

    It’s business. It isn’t personal. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.

  • Martin Curtis

    June 22, 2011 at 5:08 am

    I’m just seven hours old
    truly beautiful to behold.
    And somebody should be told.
    My feature set hasn’t been controlled.

    Now the only thing I’ve come to trust
    Is an app store rush of lust
    Steve tints my world – keeps me
    Safe from my trouble and pain.

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