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  • Is VEGAS 19 more stable than VEGAS 18?

     Steve Rhoden updated 3 months, 1 week ago 10 Members · 18 Posts
  • Sean Michael

    November 4, 2021 at 9:02 pm

    I have been editing with VEGAS for more than 15 years. Unfortunately I’ve found VEGAS 18 to be the most problematic version I’ve ever used. A typical editing session involves full crashes/freezes every 15 minutes or so, of the kind that require a complete reboot. Even with autosave backing up the file every 1 minute, this ongoing disruption is costing me a lot of time & money with every project. The problem is not my hardware — I am using very powerful hardware (CPU/GPU, plenty of RAM, SSD drives, etc.). I have made every effort to properly configure VEGAS 18 to minimize crashing (adjusting available RAM, updating drivers, etc.) — my efforts have not been successful. I am at my wit’s end with this software, to the point I’m ready to go out and spend $4500 switching to Apple / Mac specifically for a stable editing experience. Hence the topic of my post — is VEGAS 19 more stable than VEGAS 18? Or would I be better off cutting my losses and starting with something new?

  • Red-Rob Rothkopf

    November 4, 2021 at 9:25 pm

    Hey Sean.

    I can’t comment on 19, but have been editing on Vegas the same length as you. Although I’ve had an occasional crash with 18 it sounds like my experience isn’t quite as bad as yours, and mine depends on the project, plug-ins, what my source file formats are and if I’ve built proxies, and whether I have GPU turned on or off inside of Vegas (off is almost always more stable, albeit lower performance in some areas).

    More usual than not it’s pretty darned solid for me.

    Have you posted in the VegasCreativeSoftware forums, or filed a report with MAGIX to try to get to the root cause? I’m not saying that submitting a report with MAGIX has *ever* actually led to identifying the cause of my own problems or a fix — but that would seem like the “normal” way to get it fixed.

    –Rob

  • Jeff Schroeder

    November 5, 2021 at 12:47 am

    Before you lose any more sleep try the tips this guy has. He is very good at Vegas.

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  • Sean Michael

    November 8, 2021 at 6:47 pm

    Thanks for your replies. I have watched the video and made all of the suggested changes.

    I edited for about an hour today before my first crash (sadly this is doing well for VEGAS 18).

    During a typical editing crash, video preview playback freezes, then the program stalls. I get a program “Not Responding” message, the page goes grey, and I am completely unable to interact with the program. My only recourse is to shut down, reboot, and restore from the autosave file. A disruptive 5-10 minute process. This usually works until the next crash, which may happen at any time. I rarely get an error report since the program is simply frozen. I will check out the Vegas Creative forums and see if there are any other suggestions. In the past I’ve had better luck finding solutions from online forums than from corporate emails.

    I do often mix different camera files in a typical project — for example, DJI drone / action camera footage, 10-bit Sony A7Siii footage, and Sony AX700 video camera footage. In the past VEGAS was a champ at ingesting different codecs (in fact this was a chief advantage in the early days). Perhaps that’s what’s tripping up the software now.

    I don’t enjoy posting complaints. I certainly don’t relish the thought of leaving VEGAS behind and learning a new platform (not to mention transitioning all of my archived video content to the Mac platform) but I’m at my wit’s end. I was hoping that MAGIX would focus on stability/reliability but it doesn’t seem to be happening. Thanks again for your help.

  • Gabriella Bank

    November 10, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    I am having similar experiences. Vegas user for over 15 years. Keep going back to 17 now. Can’t take the stress to fail deadlines.

  • Sean Michael

    December 2, 2021 at 10:48 pm

    I ended up buying a new MacBook Pro (M1 Max!) and Final Cut Pro X. $4000 expense. Honestly I am intimidated by the learning curve of FCP X — it will take me years to attain a similar proficiency with this software.

    I may give VEGAS 19 a shot while I bring myself up to speed with FCP. I’ll report back with regards to stability. I wish Magix would focus on stability, first and foremost. New features are useless if the software crashes every 15 minutes.

  • Edward Troxel

    December 3, 2021 at 7:13 pm

    Sean, I’ve watched many of your videos along the way. Saw you were headed toward where I live when you were stuck on interstate 24 for about 6 hours because of the fire.

    I’ve been using Vegas now for over 20 years. I do see some issues with Vegas Pro 18 where I had whiteouts and had to kill and restart Vegas so I understand the frustration. These were happening anywhere from a couple minutes to 15-20 minutes depending on what I was doing. So I had started pressing CTRL-S often and, actually, slowing down some helped as well.

    I have upgraded to VEGAS Pro 19 and it is certainly better on the
    lockups I was seeing. Most of mine were actually related to audio even
    though I really wasn’t doing much with audio. Just using CTRL-Drag to
    speed up several clips would cause the issue to happen.

    Vegas, to me, is the easiest to use NLE I’ve ever tried and I’ve used several (including some tests with FCPX which made NO sense to me in how to do some really simple things).

    After upgrading to Vegas Pro 19, please do update to the latest versions as they come out. There’s been a LOT of stability changes in the later versions that has helped me.

    I’ve also recognized Titler Pro on your videos! As I work for NewBlue, if you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly.

  • Sean Michael

    December 14, 2021 at 1:09 am

    Hi Edward, thank you very much for your kind note. Yes, I’m sure you have seen Titler Pro in my videos! I have used VEGAS pretty much exclusively on Long Long Honeymoon. Pretty much every video I’ve ever posted on the channel has been edited with some version of VEGAS. I like the way it handles many aspects of editing and agree it has usually seemed to be easy and intuitive.

    I did go ahead and upgrade to version 19. I’ve got good news and bad news. Frankly I’m not a fan of the interface changes because they just made it harder to use (icons now visually blend together and are harder for my 50-something year old eyes to distinguish) but that’s a minor quibble. The good news is that I have experienced fewer whiteouts/crashes while editing in 19. This is promising! Alas, the bad news is that I’ve experienced crashing while rendering. For example, I was planning to post a new video tonight — I have been trying to render the video for several hours. It has crashed multiple times. I know a few render tricks — for example, to drag and drop the final project file into a fresh project timeline. But I am still working to render the project. It’s after 8PM EST so I will likely not post the video tonight as planned. Needless to say, this is very disappointing.

    I agree that FCPX feels a lot more different than I would like. I do not look forward to learning the new interface (and for that matter, the Mac OS) but I’ve got to find a reliable solution that doesn’t leave me gnashing my teeth with every new project. My preference would be to stick with VEGAS but I am at a loss. Thanks again for your comments; yes that fire on I-24 was a day we will never forget.

  • Steve Rhoden

    December 18, 2021 at 1:30 pm

    Vegas 19 is more stable than version 18. This line you mentioned is where your stability issues lies ” (I am using very powerful hardware (CPU/GPU, plenty of RAM, SSD drives, etc.)……. Vegas doesn’t often sit well with hardware based over powered systems, too much hardware and driver variables…. Personally i hardly ever have stability issues with it, because using Vegas for over 16 years, i have come to understand that it performs best on a moderately built system with a good dose of CPU Processing power. Once you start loading it up with the latest GPU, Hardware, Latest drivers etc etc. that’s where things start falling apart…. Invest into CPU processing when it comes unto Vegas Pro instead.

    You would be amazed at how basic and minimal my editing system is, and is what i use to crank out daily cutting edge TV and Network commercials, Broadcast content and the works. This is a very fast paced industry and Vegas delivers on time and in loads.

  • Luigi Perrotta

    December 21, 2021 at 12:18 am

    I also have been using Vegas for a long time, I have crashed a lot, the difference is when Sony supported the program I just picked up the phone and someone would help. These days there is long wait to get an answer if you get one you’re lucky!

    I owned many versions of Vegas. When I “upgrade” to Vegas 18, it crashed a lot. With the help of this forum I resolved many problems. Now, my Vegas 18 only crashes occasionally.

    When I edit with Vegas 18, I keep the computer off the Internet it helps!

    When they came out with Vegas 19, I downloaded the trial version because I wanted to try the new Chroma keyer that came with it.

    All hell broke loose, not only it would crash a lot but my Vegas 18 wouldn’t work anymore either! I uninstalled both programs and reinstalled Vegas 18 again, I am OK with it. I am following a few forums and I see the problems are still there. I will not try Vegas 19 again until I see people resolve the problems!

    I am 76 years old, time is valuable, I don’t want to spend the rest of my life uninstalling an reinstalling a program!

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