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Is this why the new Mac Pro has been taking so long?
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With the “Pencil” and right applications, real well. My scrawl doesn’t make for good character recognition, but I’m not looking for that, and, I am surprised at what some programs CAN do with it, though OneNote doesn’t support it. Also, dictation is good too. The Pro’s relatively fast processing chip works well with it.
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[Oliver Peters] “You would have received the same answer if that person had bought a PC.”
Exactly.
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[Andrew Kimery] ”
Considering the hassle of switching platforms I think a more apt comparison is platform loyalty, not brand loyalty.”I think we may agree more than disagree. With Apple they control the hardware and OS. Keep in mind the Windows OS works just fine. PC users have several options. Brand loyalty to me is when you buy a product from a company based on bias rather than what it has to offer compared to the competition. I don’t doubt if Apple did make a generic ATX computer system with a GTX 1080 Ti and 8 core CPU for $2200.00 it would out sell the 2013 Mac Pro. Not everyone needs that type of computer power but for those that do having options would be nice. If OS X was an option fromDell and HP computers then Apple users would have all the options they would need. I admit the iMac will work just fine for many users but Apple ignores that small 5%. The rest will stay loyal.
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[andy patterson] “With HP I don’t think it is brand loyalty as much as they are trying to market their products for professionals and offer good products. If HP did away with PCIe slots and ATX style work stations and only offered a 2013 Mac Pro clone I think you would agree many folks would jump ship to Dell. There is a difference between brand loyalty and a company having a good product for your workflow. If HP hypothetical did as I suggested am sure you would agree HP would get backlash beyond belief. Apple did get some backlash with the 2013 Mac Pro but many Apple users thought since it is Apple it has got to be good.”
Putting on my mad strategist hat, I’d define brand loyalty as a preference for buying from a particular brand, irrespective of specific actions of the competition or the category in general. Brand loyalty means I buy Coke, no matter what Pepsi does. It doesn’t necessarily mean I buy New Coke.
That’s not the same as buying from a particular brand, no matter what that brand itself does. We’re off into semantics now, but I’d call what you’re describing — buying consistently from a particular brand, no matter what they do — “brand fanaticism.”
Pulling this somewhat back on-topic (ha!), HP’s Z-series workstation brand promises something along the lines of “industrial-strength.” It would have been a major betrayal of their brand values to drop the Z-series and clone the trashcan.
Apple’s brand promises very different things than HP’s: innovation and aesthetics. The 2013 nMP was perfectly consistent those promises. Apple buyers may not be acting against their interest as you describe; they may well be continuing to pursue the same values that attracted them to Apple in the first place.
Walter Soyka
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[andy patterson] “I think we may agree more than disagree. “
I think so too.
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This seems relevant to the topic at hand, “Microsoft Surface Beats iPad in Design, Productivity, and Accessory Use in New J.D. Power Study”.
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And on another related note, Nvidia announced that drivers for their new ‘pascal’ line of GPUs are available for 10.11 and 10.12 which means all those creaky cMPs out there can keep on keepin’ on!
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/06/nvidia-titan-xp-gpu-mac-support/
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[Andrew Kimery] “This seems relevant to the topic at hand, “Microsoft Surface Beats iPad in Design, Productivity, and Accessory Use in New J.D. Power Study”.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/04/06/microsoft-surface-beats-ipad-j-d-power...”Some of those customers giving the good reviews are ex-iPad users. Even the ex-iPad users have stated it is great that Windows 10 OS can work in tablet mode or desktop mode. The iPad cannot work in OS X mode.
Not all but some Apple users feel as though Apple is stuck in a rut. Keep in mind OS X is still using a Windows 95 paradigm in a world of mobile devices and touch screens. For the record Windows XP and even Windows 7 use a Windows 95 paradigm as well but Windows 8 changed everything. The are iMac users that realize Adobe’s CC works just fine on Windows 10. The Surface Studio adds icing on the cake that the iMac cannot. Apple needs to start bringing it’s A Game moving forward. Not offering touch screen support for OS X in the year 2017 is not wise unless iOS will be Apples flagship OS for the desktop environment moving forward. Perhaps it will.
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[andy patterson] “Keep in mind OS X is still using a Windows 95 paradigm in a world of mobile devices and touch screens. For the record Windows XP and even Windows 7 use a Windows 95 paradigm as well but Windows 8 changed everything.”
Care to clarify what you mean by that?
Oliver
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[Oliver Peters] “[andy patterson] “Keep in mind OS X is still using a Windows 95 paradigm in a world of mobile devices and touch screens. For the record Windows XP and even Windows 7 use a Windows 95 paradigm as well but Windows 8 changed everything.”
Care to clarify what you mean by that?”
I thought it was obvious but I guess not. Windows 3.0 and the Mac OS 6 looked similar. One could say they had a similar paradigm. Windows 95 launched and introduced the Taskbar. Apple opted to leave the menubar and ad the Dock to keep up with the taskbar. That paradigm is still used by Apple today. It is a good paradigm for desktop computers with a keyboard and mouse. For small10″ tablets it does not work that well. Apple has decide to keep OS X a Windows 95 type OS and allow iOS to operate on mobile touch screen devices. Microsoft was not going to make two operating system. MS designed Windows 8 to operate in two different modes. Keep in mind Windows had touch screen support prior to Windows 8 but not the Metro GUI. The Windows 95 desktop paradigm will work with touch screen monitors that 24″ or bigger. The Dock and Taskbar can be cool but on an 11″ touch screen tablet not so much. The Windows 95 paradigm still works great and the Taskbar can do some cool things. The video link below shows the Windows 7 taskbar does do a few things better than Windows 10 taskbar.
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