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  • Is there any way to import footage shot in PF24 so that it comes as 23.98?

     Todd Terry updated 1 year ago 3 Members · 4 Posts
  • Noam Osband

    February 25, 2017 at 1:06 am

    I have footage from an XA-10 that I accidentally shot in PF24 instead of 24P. When I import it on FCP 7, no matter whether I have the “remove pulldown” preference checked or not, it comes in as 29.97. If I’m not mistaken, PF24 is shot at 24 fps and then converted to 60i. That being the case, is there anyway to import it a 23.98 or am i stuck here? I don’t want to import at 29.97 and then convert it. That’s defeating the purpose of trying not to have it look like it wa converted from 29.97.

    Thanks in advance!

  • Blaise Douros

    February 27, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    There’s no way to import it as native 23.976. If I remember correctly from my FCP7 days, you have the option to run a 3:2 pulldown on the sequence when you create it, so that it correctly reads the PF24 frames and shows up correctly. You also might be able to transcode it with CinemaTools, which I used to do, too. Or it might be that you edit at 60i and then the 3:2 pulldown happens on final export to a 23.976 file. I haven’t used FCP7 in nearly six years now, so I’m having trouble remembering how that workflow used to go. The bottom line, though, is that you import to a sequence at the native framerate and apply a 3:2 pulldown either to the sequence or to the export.

    Frankly, you’d be best off looking up Canon’s recommendations for an XA10 PF24 workflow, and trying to implement it–most of the people around here have moved away from FCP7, and like me, will be too rusty to give good advice.

  • Noam Osband

    April 14, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    Just bumping this here. I have the same question again and wondering if maybe someone has another answer…..

  • Todd Terry

    April 14, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    I’m not going to be of any help with FPC (sorry but I don’t know Apple products from a hole in the ground)… but I will say that is super easily solved in Adobe Premiere. I mention it because there might be an equivalent (or similar) way of doing in FCP.

    In Premiere you’d simply import the 24fps footage as-is, then right click on the footage in the project widow, go to “MODIFY >> INTERPRET FOOTAGE” and in the “Modify Clip” window under the “Interpret Footage” tab you would click the radio button that says “Assume this frame rate” and enter the value 23.976. Your footage would then appear in your project (and on any timelines) as 23.976fps footage, with no other conversion or other voodoo needed. Of course the speed of your clip would change… but only by .024 of a second, so that’s unlikely to cause any heartburn unless it’s a really looooong clip that you need to sync with another really looooong clip that was natively shot at 23.976.

    I know that doesn’t do you a lot of good in FCP, but maybe there are some Apple users who see my suggestion and say “Oh yeah, to do the same thing in Final Cut you just….”

    Or… find someone with Premiere to convert your footage for you.

    Or or… I haven’t tested this (as I never shoot true 24), you might be able to convert it in Handbrake. Handbrake is an unbelievably great tool (and totally free) that gets my highest recommendation. We mostly use it for converting 4K footage to 1080 proxy files for easier editing, but it will do lots of different types of conversions.

    Good luck…
    T2

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    Todd Terry
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    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

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