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  • Is there any way to get good YouTube quality without rendering in HD?

    Posted by Katey Jones on January 7, 2011 at 12:18 am

    My quality is always amazing and crisp when I render in HD and click the 720p button on Youtube. But these HD videos take *so) long to render and upload for me.

    So is there any way to get that same 720p quality without actually rendering in HD? I’ve tried rendering in 360p and 480p but it doesn’t seem to work as well. The quality is still poor.

    Any suggestions? :/

    Dave Haynie replied 15 years, 4 months ago 5 Members · 16 Replies
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  • John Rofrano

    January 7, 2011 at 12:56 am

    [Katey Jones] “So is there any way to get that same 720p quality without actually rendering in HD? I’ve tried rendering in 360p and 480p but it doesn’t seem to work as well. The quality is still poor.”

    Have you tried using the Internet 640×480-30p template under Sony AVC in Vegas Pro 10? I haven’t used those but they were made by Sony for sites like YouTube so they should work well.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Danny Hays

    January 7, 2011 at 1:28 am

    John, maybe you can help me here too. When I upload a 1080p video to youtube, it takes much longer for the youtube player buffer to fill than other peoples 1080p videos. Any idea how I can get the same results as them? As always, thanks. Danny Hays

  • Katey Jones

    January 7, 2011 at 1:33 am

    I don’t seem to have that listed under Sony AVC.
    All I have are these:
    https://i53.tinypic.com/15yycf9.png

  • John Rofrano

    January 7, 2011 at 11:31 am

    [Danny Hays] “John, maybe you can help me here too. When I upload a 1080p video to youtube, it takes much longer for the youtube player buffer to fill than other peoples 1080p videos. Any idea how I can get the same results as them? “

    Danny, I have never delivered 1080p to YouTube. Personally, I see no need for it . 720p looks great and loads quickly, so I’ve never pursued it (sorry). It’s anyone’s guess what YouTube does with our videos once we upload them. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. I would send a message to someone who’s video loads faster than yours and ask what they do.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • John Rofrano

    January 7, 2011 at 11:42 am

    [Katey Jones] “I don’t seem to have that listed under Sony AVC.”

    What version of Vegas are you using?

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Katey Jones

    January 7, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Sony Vegas Pro 8.

  • John Rofrano

    January 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    [Katey Jones] “Sony Vegas Pro 8.”

    OK Katey, try this… create a Sony AVC template that looks just like this one:

    I started with the Memory Stick SD NTSC widescreen – 2128 Kbps template and made the following changes:

    Change Video format from Memory Stick to AVC
    Change Frame size from NTSC (720×480) to (Custom frame size)
    Change Width to 640
    Change Height to 360
    Change Profile from Main to Baseline
    Change Entropy coding from CABAC to CAVLC
    Change Field Order from Upper field first to None (Progressive)

    Then give it a name like Internet 640×360-30p and save it. Let me know how this works out because I’ve never uploaded anything but 720p on YouTube. This should make a Vegas Pro 8.0 template that is the equivalent of the Internet 640×360-30p template in Vegas Pro 10.0.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

  • Al Bergstein

    January 8, 2011 at 7:58 am

    I agree with John on this. I don’t ever send my HD footage to Youtube any higher than 720p. Not worth it. Hell it looks great in 360! Downgrading to 640×360 can work fine, and if you shoot with good lighting and sound you should see great stuff. Take a look at an HD video I shot last year, and put on YouTube at 720p. It looks great. All mistakes are my fault, not the fault of the resolution. I only use 1080 for BluRay disk showings.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWEkZAlNlkw

    Alf

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  • Katey Jones

    January 8, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Works great! Thanks! 🙂

  • John Rofrano

    January 9, 2011 at 3:06 am

    [Katey Jones] “Works great! Thanks! :)”

    Cool… that one’s a “keeper” I guess. 🙂 Thanks for getting back to us.

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasst.com

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