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is pro res broadcast legal?
Does any one know if Pro Res is appearing on any of the big US Channels “approved lists” of Codecs yet?
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[sean Davison] “”approved lists” of Codecs yet?”
I didn’t know there was such a thing. You’re not delivering in ProRes anyway. You’re delivering on whatever format you have to deliver on.
One network I deliver to requires an HDCAM Master. The only time we hit actual HDCAM is mastering to tape. DVCPro HD is the workflow all the way until that point. It’s the same with Pro Res.
We’ve delivered 8 SD broadcast masters now that were cut in ProRes and delivered on BetaSP. Network hasn’t said anything yet, nor has the satellite uplink service.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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The Broadcasters I deliver to have quite detailed specs in their deliverables about the type of Compression used in the Online Process – I wondered if any of them had revised their specs to allow Pro Res – Are you using Color yet Walter? – I’m finally getting it to work reliably over here!
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[sean Davison] “The Broadcasters I deliver to have quite detailed specs in their deliverables about the type of Compression used in the Online Process”
Yeah I’ve read those too, though none have specified “banned codecs.” All pretty much say “use the least amount of compression possible.” The big specs are on the actual deliverable.
[sean Davison] “Are you using Color yet Walter? – I’m finally getting it to work reliably over here!”
Yeah, just delivered 4 HD Masters through Color and two more will go out next week. Render times are really slow though so I’m hoping Leopard might help that.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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I don’t think the codecs you speak of have necessarily to do with workflow and output but more to do with aquisition.
I’m posting an HD show due to air next march for the Outdoor Channel HD and they specifically say that very little HDV should be used. DVCPRO-HD, HDCAM and XDCAM-HD are all approved for aquisition though and a little HDV for B-roll.
I myself have sent out countless numbers of BetaSP broadcast tv spots using prores since fcp 6 came out. Nobody is complaining. 🙂
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i’m in sweden and not the u.s. but we have similar rules. however, i master all my “self onlined” sd programs to dv and hd programs to hdv, take them to a dupe house to make digibeta and hdcam dubs, which i deliver, and nobody’s complained yet. and this is everything from national television to cable pay tv, and everything from commercials to short films.
(hopefully they don’t read this)
🙂
/matt
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[Borjis] “I’m posting an HD show due to air next march for the Outdoor Channel HD and they specifically say that very little HDV should be used.”
Interestingly enough this season of Survivor Man (Discovery Channel) is shot entirely on HDV. Sometimes content is king and codec is Queen.
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[Lee Berger] “Interestingly enough this season of Survivor Man (Discovery Channel) is shot entirely on HDV. Sometimes content is king and codec is Queen.”
I’m sure that was negotiated with Discovery solely due to the locations. You want disposable cameras in a situation like that and they also have to be very small. Same with “Dirty Jobs.” They use DVCPro HD Panasonic cameras for everything except where the camera might be damaged. Then they use a Sony Z1.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Matt,
You might be fooling the stations, but you are unnecessarily recompressing all your graphics etc. with that workflow. You should bring an uncompressed QT to your dub house and let them online it. Just my 2
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i know. if i have a high budget i take the originals to them and do a proper uncompressed online, if i have a little less i online from [h]dv to uncompressed and bring the hard drive, but if i don’t have any money i bring a minidv tape. it costs much less and getting good deals is super easy, which is not the case with hard drives.
/matt
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That’s my point exactly. In a show like Survivor Man, 90% of the show is HDV and it doesn’t matter to the audience. It’s compelling content. By the way add Deadliest Catch to the list of disposable camera shows.
Lee Berger
http://www.leebergermedia.com
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