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Tom Wolsky
October 20, 2011 at 6:23 pmYou might suggest she use the trial version and see if it works for her.
All the best,
Tom
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Jeremy Garchow
October 20, 2011 at 6:26 pm[David Roth Weiss] “”YouTubers don’t aspire to remain YouTubers.””
Why not? Some of them actually get paid:
https://www.businessinsider.com/meet-the-richest-independent-youtube-stars-2010-8?op=1
Jeremy
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David Roth weiss
October 20, 2011 at 6:33 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Why not? Some of them actually get paid:”
Sorry Jeremy, but that’s simply not a good argument. If given half a chance, there’s hardly a filmmaker anywhere who doesn’t want to see their work on the big screen.
David Roth Weiss
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Steve Connor
October 20, 2011 at 6:49 pm[David Roth Weiss] “Sorry Jeremy, but that’s simply not a good argument. If given half a chance, there’s hardly a filmmaker anywhere who doesn’t want to see their work on the big screen.
“Most of the larger earners on YouTube aren’t making movies and a lot of what they do wouldn’t translate to film or possibly even Network TV. They are playing to a generation who’s viewing habits most of us don’t understand or can even hope to predict.
I’m not saying FCPX is for them, it’s just there is an emergence going on in YT that will pass most of us by.
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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Jeremy Garchow
October 20, 2011 at 6:50 pm[David Roth Weiss] “Sorry Jeremy, but that’s simply not a good argument. If given half a chance, there’s hardly a filmmaker anywhere who doesn’t want to see their work on the big screen.”
I am sure people love to see their name is lights (LED lights, of course).
I am playing devil’s advocate (go figure).
Do you want to play to a few big screens, or do you want the chance at 100-433 million little screens?
Is it the size of the screen, or the quantity when it comes to the movie business? What would Miramax say?
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Bill Davis
October 20, 2011 at 6:53 pmOK Tim,
I’ll stand corrected.
It’s doomed.
Only those who didn’t have a clue missed that the FCP-X release was the end of FCP as a workable editing tool for human beings. ; )
But you know, I still have that pesky feeling that this is going to be just like DV-25, Digital audio, DSLR’s, H4n’s and SURELY FCP 1.0 where the “it’s just toy stuff” evolved UP into daily working tools used by people making a lot of money in video production.
It’s gonna take a few years, but I’m still betting that big and monolithic is going to eventually fall to smaller and more agile.
Happened with music playback, telephones, and computers – and it’s GOING to happen with video production at all but the highest end. It’s inevitable.
And I think the NAB folks cheering at the release understood that completely.
And if the ADOBE clan (who, BTW were the ones pre-empted at the eleventh hour that night) ended up a bit pissed and that gave them any extra impetus look gleefully on any narrative that FCP-X is deeply flawed OVERALL rather than in a very narrow range at the top end of the user base – well, it’s a competitive world – and that’s how business has always been played at a certain level.
FWIW.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Mike Jeffs
October 20, 2011 at 6:57 pm[Steve Connor] “Most of the larger earners on YouTube aren’t making movies and a lot of what they do wouldn’t translate to film or possibly even Network TV. They are playing to a generation who’s viewing habits most of us don’t understand or can even hope to predict.
I’m not saying FCPX is for them, it’s just there is an emergence going on in YT that will pass most of us by.”
Again i’m going to say that perception plays a huge part in this. Youtube for how many millions of people watch a video doesn’t not have the same prestiage as being on Primetime TV of a Feature Film. (it might some day but now not so much)
the perception is Youtube is 15minutes of fame, where TV and Cinema = celebrity. This is why some of the top youtube people try and make the jump to tv. Rett and Link are great examples, they had one of the most popular youtube channels but they jump over to IFC which definitly has less viewership but heck there on TV
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David Lawrence
October 20, 2011 at 6:57 pm[David Roth Weiss] “had they revealed the fact that they were going to EOL FCS3 on the very day of their release of FCPX, wouldn’t that have changed the tone of even the most rabidly excited in attendance?”
I’m pretty sure if Peter Steinauer revealed the fact that FCPX would import iMovie projects but not FCP legacy projects, he would have been booed offstage by that crowd.
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Chris Harlan
October 20, 2011 at 7:01 pm[Tim Wilson] “The idea that there was “immediate strong negative reaction” to the FCPX launch from the people in the room is revisionist history — THAT’s revisionist history.
“Heartily seconded! In my circle the reaction was very immediately fearful over what was happening. I wasn’t on the floor, but communications with people who either were or watched video of the event, prompted me to write an email to Steve Jobs less than a week after the event warning “There is a great deal of fear in the professional Final Cut Pro community, after last weeks demo, that they have been abandoned. In certain circles, it is bordering on panic. I’m certain that that is not what the demo meant to engender, but, unfortunately, it has.”
I think this discrepancy of experience is probably explained by the simple fact that dismay and “that sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach” have no loud verbal analogs. As you are asking yourself “WTF?,” you are pretty much speechless. You are in no way ready to commit to a boo, so at the time, you are pretty silent on the matter.
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David Roth weiss
October 20, 2011 at 7:05 pm[David Lawrence] “I’m pretty sure if Peter Steinauer revealed the fact that FCPX would import iMovie projects but not FCP legacy projects, he would have been booed offstage by that crowd.”
I think violence may have ensued.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comDon’t miss my new Creative Cow Podcast: Bringing “The Whale” to the Big Screen:
https://library.creativecow.net/weiss_roth_david/Podcast-Series-2-MikeParfitandSuzanneChisholm/1POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums.
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