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Is FCPX really worth it?
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[Walter Soyka] “DRW’s question acknowledges that FCPX has been disruptive — but the question is, are the benefits of that disruption worth its cost?
You may say the answer to that question is yes, but then I’d ask another: could similar benefits have been realized with less disruption?”
I’d suggest that the benefits might have been vastly superior if Apple had chosen an entirely different and less disruptive path.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “outside of mythical unicorn age of aquarius single new adopters”
Still with the insults then?
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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no hey steve –
I’m making a broad generalisation about the future market – not any professional individual here and now – there’s a meme that this product is going to gain such adoption from an as yet unseen new base that it will wash back into the broader professional milieu in a few years time – I’m only calling *that* into question – not a single person here. there are indeed people like yourself putting real time into this application and fair ball.
..was genuinely making a different point about the supposed product trajectory.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “yes. Its a very good and simple question.
“Yes! Thanks for mentioning that Aindreas.
I very carefully crafted the question, because I do see this a simple matter of disproportionate action and reaction, that should make little sense to anyone. Or so I thought.
I see this entire overly dramatic debacle as a tempest in a teapot that has unnecessarily become something of monolithic proportions, far out of keeping with the reality of the issues at hand and completely out of whack with what has actually been delivered.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
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Fair point, I’m putting the time in because I can and if it goes wrong I can always switch to PPro. Apple completely blew the launch, I just wish they would make the effort and give us a proper roadmap.
The .1 release will tell us all we need to know
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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yes. no matter what way you cut it – apple is a strange brew – our adherence to them, and our various reactions to what they have done here to the editing application we all used.
if this was a discussion about such an unimaginable change to any other industry standard application outside of the apple shell, the conversation, I think, would be different and simpler.
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[Walter Soyka] “I disagree with Gerald Baria when he claims “newer=better” in his signature. Newer is newer, and newer may be different, but newer is quantitative and better is qualitative, so they strike me as tough to equate.
“To that broader philosophical point Walter, with the unprecedented industrial and technological change that our age is experiencing, I think it’s fair to say that there is more and more evidence that “older” is often better.
We are, and will be for a long time to come, dealing with big new directions for mankind that have proven far from “better” for countless people.Considering every new idea to be better is classic human hubris. “Forget about what those old folks used to do this is the new way” is counter intuitive. It’s ignorant to disregard invaluable, accumulated experience, which is why it’s so valued in so many cultures. Definitely not in the newest of the new, the US.
Back to Apple. If they were full of conviction as to the revolutionary nature of X, they should have been armed to the teeth with arguments, presentations and lots and lot’s of information regarding their vision long before 6/21. The way they handled the Super Meet, for instance and in retrospect, was handled far more like a typical American political event than an interaction between visionaries and their creative client base.
I can’t think of anyone, from the existing user base, to the third party developers, to the people who were working with NDAs while developing the training products, that are happy with the way Apple handled this.
How could that happen?
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[David Roth Weiss] “I’d suggest that the benefits might have been vastly superior if Apple had chosen an entirely different and less disruptive path.”
That’s not only your question David, but the $64,000 question – why’d ya do that?
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“do we have any signature adoption of this editing system that anyone can call to?”
Not sure why you see this as of being of any importance. What’s the signature adoption of iMovie? Signature adoption of Premiere for that matter.
I just don’t think this is relevant to anything but a very small portion of a potential user base. Frankly I think Apple has realized the market space is an irrelevancy to them. Clearly you think the application is a complete failure. We’ll see. I think it’s doing well. The App Store is selling a lot of product. FCP is high in the App Store. Seems logical to me.
All the best,
Tom
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