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Andy Field
May 8, 2013 at 8:55 pmCute video, but unfortunately the copyright protection says it’s wrong — here are the rules
https://www.siia.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=171&Itemid=129
Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
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Clint Wardlow
May 8, 2013 at 8:58 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I was just wondering if you saw it in this one thread or if you are talking about the general reaction to Creative Cloud on the internet.
Put simply, I’m not sure who or what is righteously indignified, but I am a fool.”
Hey I guess I am being a little hard here. We all (including myself) have our moments of righteous indignation. And it does happen on this forum from time to time. And it has certainly been aimed at both FCPX and now CC. I guess we all have to get up on our high horse every now and again.
And like I said before, it is all my own fault anyway for violating the internet prime directive: never confess or post anything personal or give an opinion online unless you want to draw heat.
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Gary Huff
May 8, 2013 at 9:11 pm[Andrew Kimery] “So you think it will be common for people to have a show stopping activation problem that Adobe can’t remedy so they’ll hack it so they can continue working and ultimately they’ll just cancel their CC membership while using the hack as a ‘permanent’ solution to run their business on pirated software?”
They do it with games all the time. Not quite the same situation, granted, but it happens in that “genre” of software.
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Andy Field
May 8, 2013 at 9:11 pmGary – you are saying it’s ok to use software as a professional and not pay for it. And that’s legal and ok?
Andy Field
FieldVision Productions
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Chris Harlan
May 8, 2013 at 9:16 pm[David Lawrence] “Andy, with all due respect, it’s a bit more complicated then your analogy.”
David, this isn’t just a digital thing. By the reasoning of the cartoon, several centuries of copyright law should be voided. I think that’s a ridiculous proposition. Its true that “theft of intellectual property” is an abstract idea, but it is an idea that I value very much. I truly appreciate the notion that, if I write a novel, most modern societies recognize that a transcribed or xeroxed copy of my novel is NOT separate in identity from my work product. It took centuries to create international laws to protect authors, and I’m grateful that we have them.
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Joseph W. bourke
May 8, 2013 at 9:17 pmOK – here’s where it hurts me, the freelancer, owner of my own business. I have the expenses of hardware, electricity to power the hardware, property taxes to have a place of business, education and experience, and a lot of software (CS6 Master Collection, many plugins, 3ds Max, and a bunch of other business and animation software which I purchase). I charge an hourly fee based loosely on what it costs me to get up and running daily, plus a bit of profit (sometimes).
The pimple nosed kid down the block finds the ten thousand plus software on a torrents sites, uses his parents computers, and opens for business, touting himself as an editor, cinematographer, and animator, selling his services for 10 bucks an hour, and bringing in work from companies who don’t know the difference it makes working with experienced people, or don’t care, as long as they have something to put on their website. What I charge a real price for, he sells for soda and candy bar money…
How does that hurt me. You figure it out…
Joe Bourke
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Gary Huff
May 8, 2013 at 9:24 pm[Andy Field] “Gary – you are saying it’s ok to use software as a professional and not pay for it. And that’s legal and ok?”
Now you are setting up a strawman for yourself to knock down, then put your hands on your hips and declare victory.
I take it you failed debate?
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Andrew Kimery
May 8, 2013 at 9:36 pmNot quite the same situation is a bit of an understatement. 😉 Buying a game then using a no-disc hack or something like that so you can play the game w/o needing the disc in the tray is not the same thing as pirating a copy of the game.
Sure, some people pirate games and some people pirate software. I’m not convinced though that CC will get business owners to switch from paying for Adobe products to pirating Adobe products in any significant numbers.
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Gary Huff
May 8, 2013 at 9:39 pm[Joseph W. Bourke] “How does that hurt me. You figure it out…”
If your clients cannot differentiate between your work and this pimple-nosed kid’s…I think you have more problems then how easily something can be copied.
And that’s not going away with DRM. I have lost very low rate jobs to people with way more expensive gear than what I can bring, stuff that can’t simply be copied, so it’s not just related to that.
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Gary Huff
May 8, 2013 at 9:41 pm[Andrew Kimery] “Not quite the same situation is a bit of an understatement. 😉 Buying a game then using a no-disc hack or something like that so you can play the game w/o needing the disc in the tray is not the same thing as pirating a copy of the game.”
Not at all…there are hacks for games that require constant online validation (think the new Sim City) that people hacked so they could actually play it because the servers were down.
Business owners won’t be pirating software…it’s not worth it to them. I suspect that, if anything, they’ll simply stay put…like they did with FCP7. If enough of them do that, Adobe’s in for a world of hurt.
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