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  • IO Hd Delay

    Posted by Jorge Goizueta on June 24, 2008 at 1:54 am

    Hello to everyone

    Im working on a sd project using ntsc APR HQ codec w/ MBP 2g ram 2.4 ghz core 2
    ok my problem is that my external monitor has a delay compare to my viewer on final cut if someone experiencing the same problem or it is something on my system

    thanks in advance

    p.s im sorry for my english

    Lawrence Shea replied 17 years, 10 months ago 6 Members · 30 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 24, 2008 at 2:39 am

    Check your frame offset.

    Final Cut Pro > System Settings > Playback Control tab

    Try a setting of 2 from the default of 4.

    If it 2 isn’t right, set it until you see it’s matched.

    Jeremy

  • Jorge Goizueta

    June 24, 2008 at 2:53 am

    Hi jeremy and thank you for the reply i had already tried that but nothing seems to work its driving me crazy. it has like half a second delay if you have any more tips it would be great

    thanks

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 24, 2008 at 3:03 am

    Are you dropping frames?

    Does the video play smoothly just delayed?

    Are audio and video in sync?

    Have you tried a negative value on the frame offset?

    Have you tried a larger value on the offset?

    Is your storage fast enough?

    Does your easy setup match your captured footage?

  • Jorge Goizueta

    June 24, 2008 at 3:19 am

    Are you dropping frames? NO

    Does the video play smoothly just delayed? YES

    Are audio and video in sync? YES, But only on the viewer on fcp and if i switch the audio trhu the io the viewer gets out of sync

    Have you tried a negative value on the frame offset? yes

    Have you tried a larger value on the offset? no im going to try this

    Is your storage fast enough? its a graid2 connected on the spresscard bus

    Does your easy setup match your captured footage? yes

    thank you again i really appreciate your help

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 24, 2008 at 3:28 am

    [Jorge Goizueta] “YES, But only on the viewer on fcp and if i switch the audio trhu the io the viewer gets out of sync “

    In order for audio and video to be in sync, they must play out through the same device. In your case, that’s the ioHD. You can’t play audio out through your computer and video out the ioHD and expect it to be in sync. Make sense?

    Jeremy

  • Jorge Goizueta

    June 24, 2008 at 3:45 am

    i know but im suppose to see on my external monitor the same as my viewer on fcp like always, right now if i hit play the video take like half second to star on my monitor on the viewer star right away i dont know it looks like some lantecy problem or something

    thanks

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 24, 2008 at 3:59 am

    Hit control-q.

    Choose the proper easy setup.

    Try again.

    You don’t have any other firewire devices connected to the bus, right?

    If this doesn’t work, try uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers. Make sure your firmware is up to date as well.

    Jeremy

  • Mark Delbridge

    June 24, 2008 at 10:53 am

    TBH I think the delay is just a firewire processing delay problem. The Avid Adrenaline suffers an even worse firewire related ‘delay’ artefact to the point of Avid now changing the hardware. No amount of firmware updates ever resolved the problem.

    Personally I see any firewire connected Io ‘BOB’ as a device to do playouts to VTR or to output to a client monitor. You need to be cutting from the viewer and delaying the Io audio to match and accept that while it offers fantastic connectablility, it isn’t perfect.

    We use Io’s and Kona’s here. The PCI connected Kona’s dont have this problem and can be set to a delay value of’0′.

    Just the way it IMO…

  • Ken Botelho

    June 24, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    [Jorge Goizueta] “Hello to everyone

    Im working on a sd project using ntsc APR HQ codec w/ MBP 2g ram 2.4 ghz core 2
    ok my problem is that my external monitor has a delay compare to my viewer on final cut if someone experiencing the same problem or it is something on my system

    thanks in advance

    p.s im sorry for my english”

    Unfortunately Jorge, this is the nature of the beast, and the beast being firewire. Unlike the Kona devices… when you go to view your output on an external video monitor, the Firewire output must be converted into a standard NTSC or PAL video signal. This is accomplished by using a DV camcorder, VTR, or converter box (such as the AJA IoHD) as an intermediate link between your computer and your video monitor.
    When viewing video with the External Video option enabled, the computer’s built-in speaker is disabled (or at least should be) and the audio will play out of the DV device used for conversion from FireWire. You should also know that this external audio is synchronized specifically to the external video coming out of the same converter, and that there is a delay in the sync between video displayed on the computer monitor and audio coming out of a DV converter box.

    So when you see a delay between what is on your Final Cut Pro output viewer and what is being recorded/outputted, this is normal. This is because there is a delay in transferring the data via the firewire cable into a video source. All will still function properly and everything should be fine when you play back the master tape.

    I know its quite the annoyance but I have never seen such a workaround for this without adhering to a single output source or using a non firewire device (ie. Kona). Hope this helps.

    -KennyB

  • Ken Botelho

    June 24, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    [Mark Delbridge] “TBH I think the delay is just a firewire processing delay problem. The Avid Adrenaline suffers an even worse firewire related ‘delay’ artefact to the point of Avid now changing the hardware. No amount of firmware updates ever resolved the problem.

    Personally I see any firewire connected Io ‘BOB’ as a device to do playouts to VTR or to output to a client monitor. You need to be cutting from the viewer and delaying the Io audio to match and accept that while it offers fantastic connectablility, it isn’t perfect.

    We use Io’s and Kona’s here. The PCI connected Kona’s dont have this problem and can be set to a delay value of’0′.

    Just the way it IMO…”

    Ahhh, ya beat me to it! Kudos..

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