installing FCS2 – space issue with Macbook Pro 2

[Jeremy Garchow]

I’d say delete it, it all get replaced anyway.

Clone your hard drive first, barring any problems.

Jeremy

[Pat Defilippo]

Hello,

I’ve been thinking about this issue as well as my FCS2 is “in the mail”.

Does anyone know if it’s possible and how feasible it would be to install all of the “necessary” FCS2 files onto the MacBook and all of the Motion and DVDSP templates, SoundTrack sound effects, etc., onto some type of FW800 drive or something?

I have a 80GB Lacie “Rugged” drive in mind, which is powered by the bus as an upside but is only 5400 rpm as a downside (although that’s all the 160GB MacBook HD is, though). Lacie has a 100GB model, however, that is 7200 rpm.

Would something like this work, which can just be plugged in as needed?
-Pat

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[Pat Defilippo]

Hello,

I’ve been thinking about this issue as well as my FCS2 is “in the mail”.

Does anyone know if it’s possible and how feasible it would be to install all of the “necessary” FCS2 files onto the MacBook and all of the Motion and DVDSP templates, SoundTrack sound effects, etc., onto some type of FW800 drive or something?

I have a 80GB Lacie “Rugged” drive in mind, which is powered by the bus as an upside but is only 5400 rpm as a downside (although that’s all the 160GB MacBook HD is, though). Lacie has a 100GB model, however, that is 7200 rpm.

Would something like this work, which can just be plugged in as needed?
-Pat

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30″ Cinema Display & 17″ Sony SVGA ~
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Final Cut Studio ~
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[Steve Eisen]

Pat,

It’s easy as 1, 2, 3. My current FCS 1 is set up that way on My MBPro. I have an external HD with all the extras on it.

When you install, you have the option install only what you want.

All the extra templates are located in Library/Application Support. Live Type, STP and DVD SP have their own folders. My Motion templates are located in users/shared/motion.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Director-At-Large
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

[Nick Meyers]

so do you do 2 installs?

one for the apps to the default location,
then another for the media, to a new specified location?

or can you set it up to do all at once?

[Pat Defilippo]

Thanks for the help (again!) Steve!

How about this – what if we did full installs on our desktop machines, and then copied the content in the folders that Steve identified to a FW800 drive? The same FW800 drive can be used as needed on both the desktop and the MBP, saving valuable HD space on both machines.

This way, we’ve still got access to every template and effect that FCS2 (and even other programs, like SonicFire music, etc.) has to offer instead of not installing it at all. Could this be an option, unless during install these template and effects files be separately installed somewhere else (instead of the main hard drive)?

Thanks again!
-Pat

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[Steve Eisen]

Pat,

That is exactly what you want to do.

Steve Eisen
Eisen Video Productions
Director-At-Large
Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

[Eli Kabillio]

The FCP 2 install allows you to select the location for the DVDSP, Motion and Soundtrack media.

[Pat Defilippo]

Hi again and thanks for the info!

I was just thinking this out. Now knowing that FCS2 lets you send Motion, STP and DVDSP templates and effects onto different drives, would it make sense that something like a FW800/FW400/USB2.0 100GB Lacie Rugged external hard drive (7200 rpm, bus powered and fits into a MacBook Pro bag easily) be hooked up while editing, in reality, via the MBP’s USB port?

My thinking is that, most of the time during editing with the MacBook Pro, the FW400 port is hooked up to a DV camera or deck (rendering the MBP’s FW800 port useless becuase it’s on the same bus will cause dropped frames if both are used simultaneously) and the Express 34 port is used with either a FW800 card or SATA card hooked up to a storage drive.

So, the only port available to hook up the Rugged with is the MacBook Pro’s USB port, right? Or, could it be daisey-chained with the external storage drive via the Express 34 port?

I know, with the triple-interface Lacie 100GB Rugged drive, if you use the USB 2.0 connection, you need to use a second USB port for power (which they supply).

Does this make sense? Does anyone have another portable drive in mind (perhaps one less expensive – the street price on the 100GB Lacie Rugged is $180-$200 – or with more features). Ideally, it is a hard drive that is 7200rpm (for possible editing with on occaision via anything but USB 2.0), bus powered and fits in a MacBook Pro bag easily?

I’m going to do this for the FCS2 install because not only am I running out of room on my MacBook Pro, my Quad is getting low on space as well!

Thanks again in advance,
-Pat

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[John Rhee]

Thanks for all the info,
As much as moving the media files and templates and other files to the external HD would be easier, my concern is the lack of portability. Depending on the shoot, sometimes, I have to have my laptop on set to ingest and cut on the fly. And although I don’t use DVDSP or Motion regularly, I like the option that I can use those on set or anywhere else if I have to. I think really the only option is to upgrade my internal HD to a much bigger one.