Insanely Simple the book and Steve Jobs.

[Jules Bowman]

Ok, I read your post twice.

Firstly you say i’m wrong at the top (the headline) then admit i may be right at the bottom (where people have usually stopped reading).

Secondly although it is sad that people are earning less in these facilities and that these facilities may even be reducing in numbers, I believe that most major film and TV is done in the kind of post houses I was talking about, will continue to be done in said post houses and they will continue to use Avid as a main EDL etc.,… which does kind of make my initial point seem right.

So am I wrong? Or am I right but you have an addendum to add?

[Alex Hawkins]

[Bill Davis] “You must be new in these parts!”

Been here for over a decade.

[Bill Davis] “that’s going to perhaps be a bit of a problem for those who just tossed this particular baby out early and never learned the value of the new approach”

See. There you go again.

[Bill Davis] “that’s going to perhaps be a bit of a problem”

Why? How?

[Bill Davis] “Here we are nearly a year later and exceptionally talented editors with fine editing brains and tons of real world expertise are still not comprehending some of the fundamental changes Apple made in this tool.”

So therefore where do you think the fault may lie . . . ?

[Bill Davis] “Are we fools who confront a bad program but are too self-conscious to admit we’ve made a terrible choice and are just maintaining “appearances” and blowing smoke up our client’s pant legs so they never find out we can’t actually do efficient pro work with this tool? Or have we just taken the time to learn the complexities and nuances of the tools – and after doing that – find that it actually works for us in ways that other software has not?

Because if any other thing is true – wouldn’t we have simply jettisoned it and gone back to the “money” software we used to use – if out of self-preservation if nothing else?”

See again, why do you always turn it around to the personal? This time in a pseudo self deprecating manner at first then in a more roundabout, subtle way, having a dig at others who haven’t “taken the time to learn the complexities and nuances of the tools”.

No one is saying you’re a fool for using it or you’re blowing smoke up your client’s pant legs. So why do YOU say it? I just don’t get that. You seem to be conducting an argument that no one else is having.

[Bill Davis] “Works for football (soccer) but fails massively for basketball – where the coach almost universally sends the player in off the bench with an instruction like “you’ve got Johnson”.

That’s my fundamental point in all of this. We’re NOT always playing the same game. So adjustments MUST be made.”

Sorry to be dumb but . . .

. . . HUH!!??

Alex Hawkins
Canberra, Australia

[Bill Davis]

[Jules bowman] “So, dear Billiam, what exactly is this shifting of the editing industry then? SNIP
a high octane capitalist environment that demands delivery yesterday and results right now’: but actually factual proof that my “high end” skill set is not enough for me to continue to make the perfectly acceptable living I have been doing so for 10 years.”

Tried to resist but I can’t.

As to “Billiam” congratulations, you’ve joined the hallowed company of Lisa, the annoying 9 year old I went to grade school with. Please note that since I, myself, am no longer nine, I will refrain from taking the bait and referring to you henceforth as Julie-poolie-woolie – though God knows it’s tempting.

Now to the fun.

I never claim I have a “high end skill set” tho I suppose some of my larger clients might argue otherwise. The problem is that I learned young that if *I* am every the one saying *I* have high end skills – instead of letting others say that about me – I’m all too often deeply misguided.

That’s worth considering Mr. bowman. (by the way, is that lower case bowman an homage to Mr. cummings? Or just sloppiness? Oh, never mind. I screw up my typing a lot. I just seldom let it slide in every single post I make – but thats a digression, let’s keep on point.

[Jules bowman] “Or is this shift something else Bill? What is it. Pray tell. Enlighten. Illuminate (*Factually please. Thanks in advance) “

Sure, happy to play.

In a nutshell, the increasing density of constantly available information we all have to contend with and the elevation of SEARCH as the primary driver of work efficiency. That’s the change that X is built to address in my thinking.
I suspect you’re stuck in thinking that “editing” is the important game here. But I think less and less so. The primary game in the world today that drives financial success is migrating toward information access. Period. Everything in business may well be subtly transforming into a functional subset of that.

IMO It’s increasingly a waste of time to edit a “video” and then cut if off from the distribution and management links that enable people to find and use it as they like.

You want facts? Here’s one. Google ascended because they understood that in a persistently connected world, SEARCH is the central core that brings order to chaos. Why did Apple dump Legacy? My suspicion is in large part because it was (extremely charitably speaking) a marginal digital asset management system at best and couldn’t be transformed into much more than that. OTOH, X is entirely built around metadata and databasing.

You see X as an “editor.” Because that’s where your thinking appears to start and stop. I see it as a new tool that makes the editing functions an integrated part of creating and managing and tagging and searching and sorting and managing digital information that just HAPPENS to be video, audio and still content.

That’s enough for now. More might make you feel I was being “condescending” somehow – and your risible tendencies takes too much of the fun out of any serious discussion with you, IMO.

[Jules bowman] “But no mate, you have no sense of anything other than your own navel fluff, and that is why you are so irritating to so many.”

I must step back and try to get my poor brain around this cleaver endgame of yours, sir. You post “you may actually start feeling a little warmth” – then you refer to me with the presumptive intimacy “fella” and proceed to make reference to my navel. This sequence (which I pray is totally inadvertent) has me reeling. Nobody outside of my wife and my dog ever is in a position to have my navel be a part of their consciousness let alone spends any time at all speculating on what possibly might reside there.

This has me feeling ever so slightly “creeped out” – so I must withdraw from the field of textual battle to re-group.

Later dude.

“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor

[Jules Bowman]

Dear lord.

I get it now. Information access not story telling. Using SEARCH functions not narrative telling aptitude. Of course, all end users want to see beautifully ordered databases and don’t care about the edit.

Sorry, you’ve intellectualised this to a point where it is utter pish mate. Organising data can aid and benefit in an edit. But it is utterly illogical to think that it is more important than the edit. Than the process of juxtaposing footage into a coherent and engaging video.

Dude, mess around with your metadata all you want. Organise until the cows come home. Unless you can cut something of value to the end user who gives a shit? Apart from you, of course.

I can’t believe your acolyte like obsession with FC10 is simply based on your penchant for lists. OCD much :)?

Ok, we’re done talking now. As in I will avoid you because after that last reply i think you’re spouting intellectualised nonsense and I now know you have absolutely nothing of value to ever add to my life. It’s like talking to a scientologist.

Oh, and Navel fluff = self absorbtion. That you took it to a homoerotic place and it ‘creeped you out’… well, to be honest mate that doesn’t surprise me because i think you’re a bit of a nob… though that will probably send you into convulsions of closeted delight/confusion.

Bye Billiam.

Love and kisses Julie poolie woolie

xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

oh, swansong:

“I suspect you’re stuck in thinking that “editing” is the important game here. But I think less and less so. ”

lmao. sorry. LMAO.

[Steve Connor]

[Jules bowman] “Ok, we’re done talking now. As in I will avoid you because after that last reply i think you’re spouting intellectualised nonsense and I now know you have absolutely nothing of value to ever add to my life. It’s like talking to a scientologist. “

Do you honestly think you’re going to be able to resist responding to Bill in the future?

Steve Connor
“FCPX Professional”
Adrenalin Television

[Jules Bowman]

Yes 🙂

Honestly, I already feel like i’ve added 2 years and 3 months onto my life by simply making that decision. It’s a beautiful thing.

[Chris Harlan]

[Jules bowman] “Yes 🙂

Honestly, I already feel like i’ve added 2 years and 3 months onto my life by simply making that decision. It’s a beautiful thing.
“

I think that I need to learn how.