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Increase frame rate on digital editing systems?
I shoot on dvx100b PAL at 25p and edit on FCP 5
Is there a way to increase the frame rate from 1/25 of a second to something like 1/250 without dropping frames, so you still catch a glimpse of all that 90% of information (e.g. the timelapse sequences in Baraka)?
(Please forgive me if this is covered in another thread, but I couldn’t find it when searching.)
Many thanks!
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You have to SHOOT that frame rate. You need to shoot 250frames per second…and then play it back at say, 25fps, to see it in slow motion. If you shot 25fps, but want to play it slow….you have 25 frames per second…you can’t suddenly make that 250fps. You only have 25 frames. Nothing in between.
Wait…not SLOW motion, but TIMELAPSE? Yeah, just speed up the footage. Load into the Viewer, CMD-J…adjust it to 1000%. Then cut it into your sequence.
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I believe the speed (or time) control is in the Motion tab in FCP5. It’s been a while. Double-click your clip, then click on the Motion tab in the Viewer and open the Speed (it may be called something else) twirl-down. Enter the % change you want and that’s it. There may be a frame blending check box. Try it on and off to see which you like.
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Increasing the speed the way you suggest (modify/speed) cuts out the majority of the shot footage though (even with the added frame blur effect).
If you imagine speeding up real film on an old flatbed editing system from 25 frames per second to 250 (or whatever), your eyes would still see every one of the 250 frames per second go racing through the viewer with a lovely blur added to any movement in frame.
As all the footage is in FCP to begin with, there ought be a way to increase the speed using ALL the frames. Any ideas?
Example (0:44 seconds in):
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Increasing the speed the way you suggest (modify/speed) cuts out the majority of the shot footage though (even with the added frame blur effect).
If you imagine speeding up real film on an old flatbed editing system from 25 frames per second to 250 (or whatever), your eyes would still see every one of the 250 frames per second go racing through the viewer with a lovely blur added to any movement in frame.
As all the footage is in FCP to begin with, there ought be a way to increase the speed using ALL the frames. Any ideas?
Example (0:44 seconds in):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2L8MWTGY2E&feature=related
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Speeding footage up on a flatbed is VERY DIFFERENT than doing it in an edit system…linear or NON-linear. None of them display this footage the way flatbeds do.
The example you gave at the 44 second mark is a SHOOTING effect. the shutter speed has been adjusted so that the shutter is open longer so that the people BLUR in the image. Some video cameras have this option too. Not something you do in the NLE, but in the camera.
Shane
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What you can do is to first AVERAGE the footage (blend several frames together) and then perform your speedchange (timelapse). But the result would not be exactly the same as what you get when you do it in camera as you wouldn’t have true motion blur.
I don’t remember if it is possible in FCP 5 without 3rd party plugins, but in FCP 7 you can use the Wide Time effect (Under Video filters -> Time) to blend the frames.
Stephan
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I am not sure if you understand how timelapse is shot like in Baraka. An intervalometer snaps a single frame every few seconds. So there are no magic frames in between. It is almost the same as speeding up normal frame rate footage except for one difference – the shutter speed.
So if you want proper timelapse, then use a DSLR shooting RAW with an intervalometer and suitable shutter speed. You can get 4.5k images with a sub $10k system that rival 35mm film quality.
In the meantime, experiement with Motions Optical flow for speeding up and blurring/ frame blending as it might give you a better timelapse effect with standard video footage than the basic frame blend mode in FCP.
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I see you are on FCP 5 so I don’t know if you have motion or if optical flow was in that old version.
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These are simple speed-ups and time-lapses.
if the pictures they have no the motion-blur that you want, add it with Re-Vision MB.
rafael
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