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In-Action Story on FCPX and Focus
Andreas Kiel replied 11 years, 2 months ago 30 Members · 203 Replies
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Andrew Kimery
March 2, 2015 at 3:42 amIntel has a road map:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-we-learned-about-intel-this-week/Here’s a roadmap from MS for Office 365:
https://roadmap.office.com/en-usOn the COW alone Todd Kopriva from Adobe mentions what the AE team is currently focused on (https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/378/9884) and Peter Garaway, also from Adobe mentions, that they are working on better performance in PPro while using networked storage. Not to mention Dennis’ own ‘wink’ in this thread to a feature request made by Richard.
No company is going to be 100% transparent, but Apple is notoriously super secretive, which I think is part of their allure and certainly drives the rumor culture, so I’m always surprised when someone implies that all companies are as super secretive as Apple. Apple doesn’t interact with it’s users the way that some other companies might and I doubt they ever will. And considering their success it’s not like they need to change their MO anyway.
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James Ewart
March 2, 2015 at 9:17 am[Andrew Kimery] “No company is going to be 100% transparent, but Apple is notoriously super secretive, which I think is part of their allure and certainly drives the rumor culture, so I’m always surprised when someone implies that all companies are as super secretive as Apple. Apple doesn’t interact with it’s users the way that some other companies might and I doubt they ever will. And considering their success it’s not like they need to change their MO anyway.”
But wouldn’t it be nice? After all we are customers. Be nice to b treated with a bit more courtesy. For example to give us hint at areas they are looking at developing and other things they are not. Are they worried we would leave in droves if they told us they have no plans ever for a “send to mention” feature for example.
It sure would be helpful for us to know a bit more and I am no corporate bigwig obviously but what harm could it do.
Yes Andrew a Roadmap would be nice.
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Simon Ubsdell
March 2, 2015 at 9:33 amHi Jeff,
Insofar as you are referring to me here, which seems possible, can I (politely, I hope) answer your first two points?
[Jeff Markgraf] “Curiosity about an unknown and possibly inexperienced editor working on a major studio film quickly becomes a virtual attack on this guy’s skills and credibility.”
I certainly didn’t intend to question Mr Kovac’s skills or credibility – I merely thought it was relevant to flag up his apparent lack of experience as a Hollywood feature film editor, which seemed to me to be worthy of note in this context. The two things are very different but seem to have been confused here.
Cold Mountain was a landmark moment in large part because the choice to use it was made by a universally acknowledged giant in the feature editing world and it was for that reason almost more than any other that Legacy “suddenly” acquired a perceived legitimacy it didn’t have before. Walter Murch’s reputation and experience were the seal of approval that validated the product. You could almost say that his talent as an editor was not relevant in this case …
Focus may well come to change a lot of people’s minds about FCP X but in comparing this moment with the Cold Mountain moment, it is surely not inappropriate to point out that in this case the reputation and experience of the editor are not in the same league. Kovac may well be a super-talented editor, despite his lack of imdb credits, but he doesn’t bring the same credibility to the party as Murch did.
I just don’t see how this can be considered contentious, and mentioning it is really not a disparagement of Jan Kovac, though you seem to have read it that way.
[Jeff Markgraf] “The original subtext (yes, subtext carries over very well on the internet) that there’s something odd or shady going on with this project (producers who want to run every aspect of the process, etc.) morphs into clear evidence that “there mischief afoot!” and “he/it/this whole thing can’t possibly be professional, etc.””
I think, with respect, the morphing is taking place in your imagination. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I use FCP X professionally and was well aware, long before Focus, that it was a viable tool for editing features. In many ways, I like it a lot, and just like any other piece of software I have ever used, there are ways in which is dislike it. (And of course, as I’ve mentioned in the past, there are specific missing features which make my particular niche workflow a bit of a pain, but let’s not go over that again here.) For better or worse, I just can’t bring myself to be partisan, either for it or against it.
What I think does more damage to FCP X than almost anything else is the frothing zealotry of a handful of its most extreme adherents – it really does put a lot of people off who might otherwise be more receptive, though of course their enthusiasm is otherwise highly laudable. At least that’s what I think.
The internet is a very strange place where the majority of communication reveals the failure to communicate.
So apologies for failing to communicate in this instance … and of course, peace and love to all.
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Robin S. kurz
March 2, 2015 at 9:53 amCheers Jeff.
[Jeff Markgraf] “6. Anyone trying to both call the bs and cut through the bs is clearly a provocateur.”
You get used to it. If you don’t have enough blogs and/or YouTube channels or haven’t been registered since 1983, then you have no “street-cred” here. It’s an amusing ego-dance to watch. In a morbid sort of way. 😀 Agree or shut up, but don’t dare question the blog channel powers that be. And when certain people are reduced to embarrassingly jejune personal attacks and jabs, logical fallacies and random misinterpretations, apparently for lack of any real arguments otherwise, and you’re “punished” with the silent-treatment, you know you’re on to something. ;-))
[Jeff Markgraf] “I applaud you for fighting the good fight. “
Don’t know about good, but certainly tiring, yes. I didn’t know you had to open your virtual zipper here first and slap it on the table to be allowed an opinion. 😀 I’ll have to keep that in mind.
[Jeff Markgraf] “I’m reading Mike Matzdorff’s e-book now. Perhaps we can have some useful discussions afterward (and after seeing the actual movie!) Pretty much everything else here is primarily speculation and agenda-promotion.”
Ditto. Some really good stuff in there. Should be interesting if others go to the same trouble also… 😉
– RK
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Durin Gleaves
March 2, 2015 at 4:24 pm“Audio from Premiere to Audition is lame lame lame because when the audio goes from Premiere to Audition, the media is transcoded and the timecode is re-written to where ever it is in the Premiere time line. This means conforming any picture changes is virtually impossible, and I literally have to use old-school metadata: paper and pen. ”
We’ll have to take a look at this and see what’s happening. Losing embedded timecode should not be okay. Can you get in touch with me at audbugs@adobe.com?
Thanks
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Bill Davis
March 2, 2015 at 4:55 pm[Andrew Kimery] “Apple is notoriously super secretive,”
(slapping forehead)
Of course. Hey, if you have time, can you show me the pictures of the car style coming out in a few years, you know, without all the camouflage body parts the car companies use to obscure the styling details?
And my wife likes perfume, What scent profiles are the big perfume houses working on for Christmas 2017? I’d LOVE to get some advance warning about that.
Oooh, and my kid loves fast food. What’s coming out of the test kitchens for some of the big fast food places for the next few years? Will healthier make inroads? Or is it going to be all about bigger burgers?
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Seriously, you simply can’t point at a couple of examples of leading players who do things a different way – and argue that openness and disclosure is somehow an industry standard because of that. There are plenty of examples like the above where industrial secrets are a critical component of competitive advantage in industries across the spectrum.You or I may not like it. But it’s how things have always been done. So the whole argument for additional “openness” becomes silly at some level.
My 2 cents anyway.
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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Bill Davis
March 2, 2015 at 5:08 pmBut Simon,
Without judicious frothing – the world would be without cappuccino OR meringue OR margaritas – and therefore a much less hospitable place.
Frothers of the world UNITE!
(grin)
Know someone who teaches video editing in elementary school, high school or college? Tell them to check out http://www.StartEditingNow.com – video editing curriculum complete with licensed practice content.
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James Ewart
March 2, 2015 at 5:19 pm[Bill Davis] “You or I may not like it. But it’s how things have always been done. So the whole argument for additional “openness” becomes silly at some level. “
I’m just suggesting it would be nice/polite/courteous to feel we had a bit more of the two way dialogue that Adobe give their customers, I may be naive for wishing for it. But if somebody comes along giving me what Apple give me AND what Adobe give their customers I would jump ship tomorrow.
I do feel that Adobe seem to value their customers more than Apple do and that makes me think more and more about whether I am driving the right car.
All great Empires come to an end and usually it’s when they start to get complacent.
And we are not just talking Rome and Alexander the Great. IBM. MySpace. Blackberry. We could write a big list.
So customer loyalty can be valuable, and has been something that kept Apple afloat in the past. Do we feel as loyal today to Apple as we did 10 years ago or more?
Love the products. Don’t like the attitude as much.
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Simon Ubsdell
March 2, 2015 at 5:22 pm[Bill Davis] “Without judicious frothing – the world would be without cappuccino OR meringue OR margaritas – and therefore a much less hospitable place.”
All good points. I will duly revise my opinion of froth and its place in the world 😉
Simon Ubsdell
tokyo-uk.com
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