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In-Action Story on FCPX and Focus
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[James Ewart] “Don’t all these applications take everybody a few months to learn? And aren’t we all continuing to learn about them all the time? I know I am.”
Most certainly. But here, too, you need to differentiate between “learning by doing” (which I may unfairly be assuming was the vast position of your learning X, for arguments sake) and learning in a structured classroom environment with a trained instructor. Or do you not believe you would have learned FCP (or any app you use for that matter) better, more efficiently and most of all sooner that way? Whereby I’m not talking about “to an expert level” either, but to the point that you’re only left with dealing with details, not struggling with mere basic concepts. And you, too, were not a novice on the subject either going in. 😉
But yes, Apple leaves us little more than 3-4 month increments to believe we know everything there is to know about X. 😀
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Right. Because the one opinion that suits your argument is the only possible valid one and the measure for all others after that. Got it.”
Robin, when you pin your argument on the line “never once” and somebody shows you the once, you can either acknowledge your overstatement while defending your basic argument, or you can act like a Fox news anchor.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Robin S. Kurz] “you need to differentiate between “learning by doing” (which I may unfairly be assuming was the vast position of your learning X, for arguments sake) and learning in a structured classroom environment with a trained instructor. “
That sounds great. Can you recommend any training that might be particularly suited to, say, a German-speaking user?
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[Herb Sevush] “Robin, when you pin your argument on the line “never once” and somebody shows you the once”
Gotcha. Because the moment that you read the contrary elsewhere, then my claiming that I myself have yet to hear it clearly has to be an exaggeration or even lie. Of course. Mea culpa.
I once heard a veteran editor say that PPro totally stinks. So I guess that totally negates any other opinions or experiences I come across! Wow… that makes things so much easier, thanks! Great system.
😀
Enjoy any further “discussion”…
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Can you recommend any training that might be particularly suited”
Wow. Now you’re just trying way too hard. To the point where it’s just…
But yeah… a LOT and in many languages: https://aatcportal.apple.com/AATCWeb/locations … take your pick. Let me know if you need help figuring it out.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “Most certainly. But here, too, you need to differentiate between “learning by doing” (which I may unfairly be assuming was the vast position of your learning X, for arguments sake) and learning in a structured classroom environment with a trained instructor. Or do you not believe you would have learned FCP (or any app you use for that matter) better, more efficiently and most of all sooner that way?”
I did a one day course “introduction to” which I found pretty useful but only to a point. The helped me with the terminology that was doing my brain in “ahh so match frame is called reveal in event browser”. All that stuff. Really helpful (not being sarcastic it helped get me going with X when I was close to jumping ship to Adobe). But I think I only get to grips with software when I am using it “in anger” albeit on a personal project that I have generated for that purpose.
I actually found the Ripple tutorials incredibly helpful however because I could dip in and out. Try stuff out. Go back to it.
Ideally I would have liked an instructor sitting next to me for a month but that was being my budget unfortunately.
I was never a particularly successful classroom scholar so it may just be me.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “That sounds great. Can you recommend any training that might be particularly suited to, say, a German-speaking user?”
😉
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[James Ewart] “I actually found the Ripple tutorials incredibly helpful however because I could dip in and out. Try stuff out. Go back to it. “
I also found Lynda.com very helpful with both X and Premiere. I like the fact that Lynda is broken down into small chapters that I can easily jump to if I need a refresher. Having a site license for Lynda helps a bunch.
Ripple is fantastic as well.
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Robin –
I feel your pain in this thread. Seriously. Let’s summarize:
1. Curiosity about an unknown and possibly inexperienced editor working on a major studio film quickly becomes a virtual attack on this guy’s skills and credibility.
2. The original subtext (yes, subtext carries over very well on the internet) that there’s something odd or shady going on with this project (producers who want to run every aspect of the process, etc.) morphs into clear evidence that “there mischief afoot!” and “he/it/this whole thing can’t possibly be professional, etc.”
3. It’s more fun to quote people out of context in order to support a weak premise.
4. It’s more fun to misunderstand or misrepresent points in order to fan the flames of very old arguments.
5. Any opportunity to bash Bill Davis must be taken, especially when presented in an “oh,so reasonable, just stating the facts, ma’m, why u mad?” fashion.
6. Anyone trying to both call the bs and cut through the bs is clearly a provocateur.
I applaud you for fighting the good fight.
I’m reading Mike Matzdorff’s e-book now. Perhaps we can have some useful discussions afterward (and after seeing the actual movie!) Pretty much everything else here is primarily speculation and agenda-promotion.
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[James Ewart] “Why can’t Apple keep us updated on their plans for the development of the software?”
What publicly traded company does?
Scott Witthaus
Senior Editor/Post Production Supervisor
1708 Inc./Editorial
Professor, VCU Brandcenter
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