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  • Improve already captured files/sequences in FCP S2

  • audiovideo

    May 29, 2007 at 1:00 pm

    There have been lots and lots of great ideas, observations, and suggestions on this forum about FCP Studio 2–especially on “what to do” to take advantage of all the features in Studio 2 when capturing, editing, color correctiong, etc. But I’d be interested to know how you can take advantage of FCP S2’s power to improve “already” captured files…and/or already made clips/sequences. For example…if one has already filmed and “captured” i.e., DVX100A camera @ 24p > captured NTSC DV via firewire > to a 29.97 timeline…how could you improve the quality of your sequence file ( i.e., resolution, depth of color, detail, etc.) in order to end up, eventually, with a higher quality DVD? Thanks!

  • Shane Ross

    May 29, 2007 at 1:45 pm

    Capturing DV via firewire as DV/NTSC (or DV/PAL) is the best quality you can get. You can convert to DV50 or uncompressed 8-bit for color correcting to reduce the compression artifacts, but I doubt you’d notice a difference if you did that over just color correcting regular DV…after you compress for DVD.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Mark Maness

    May 29, 2007 at 1:53 pm

    I agree with Shane…

    Your thinking is great…. BUT you really can’t improve DV. DV is DV, no matter what you do with it. You CAN reduce some of the artifacting like Shane said, but quality is based on your input quality. If you capture DV using the component outputs of your machine, it will still look like DV because of the compression of DV.

    You only option to gain quality is to sell your DV equipment and replace it with HDV. Downconverted HDV is really impressive when it goes to DVD.

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    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com
    https://blogs.creativecow.net/waynecarey

  • audiovideo

    May 29, 2007 at 3:30 pm

    [Wayne Carey] “If you capture DV using the component outputs of your machine, it will still look like DV because of the compression of DV.”

    Bummer! Hmmm…what if I re-capture from the camera using ProRes 422? Any benefit? Or is there another way to extract the video from the camera to avoid its 5:1 compression? Can you tell I’m desperate, here? 🙂

  • Mark Maness

    May 29, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    [audiovideo] “Bummer! Hmmm…what if I re-capture from the camera using ProRes 422? Any benefit? Or is there another way to extract the video from the camera to avoid its 5:1 compression? Can you tell I’m desperate, here? :-)”

    The only way you can benefit from this is to capture on the fly and avoid going to tape. Once it is on tape, it’s compressed. Now, everybody here has their own opinion on this but I do have to agree that DVD is DV no matter what you do with it. DVD has the same compression scheme as DV video, so it all depends on what you wish to do with it.

    This project of yours… is it going to DVD only? If so, don’t worry about it. If you have lots of graphics that need to be keyed, then I would suggest that you capture all of your footage using another better quality codec. DV doesn’t handle keyed graphics very well.

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com
    https://blogs.creativecow.net/waynecarey

  • Shane Ross

    May 29, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    [audiovideo] “what if I re-capture from the camera using ProRes 422? Any benefit?”

    Only if you color correct and add filters. Rendering compressed the footage less than regular DV does.

    [audiovideo] “Or is there another way to extract the video from the camera to avoid its 5:1 compression?”

    Can’t avoid this. Once recorded onto tape, the 5:1 compression is there…permanently. The only way to avoid it is to not record to tape, but capture directly into FCP. But carrying a computer and hard drive attached to a camera isn’t very convenient.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • David Roth Weiss

    May 29, 2007 at 3:44 pm

    [audiovideo] “is there another way to extract the video from the camera to avoid its 5:1 compression?”

    Only if you capture directly to hard drive when shooting, thereby avoiding the compression stage all cameras require before recording to tape.

    Just for the record, DV is not inherently ugly. In fact, DV can look very good. Of course, it can look very bad too, but then so can HD — it all depends on how its shot. If your lighting is such that the video looks really bad, nothing can really help. You can try to spruce it up with color correction, but you’ll never be able to turn a sow’s ear into a silk purse after its shot.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Post-production Supervisor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

  • audiovideo

    May 29, 2007 at 4:08 pm

    Thank you both so much! I truly appreciate your knowledge and willingness to help! To answer your question, I am going to DVD only (thank heavens!) It’s just that I have so much invested into this project that I need to get the best results possible. The footage was shot in good light (generally speaking, that is) and white balanced as well as possible. Focus, composition, etc. was done fairly well. Any suggestion as far as what settings to use in Compressor in FCP S2? (BTW…if you’re looking for a DVX100A to buy…BOY(!) do I have such deal for you!!!)

  • audiovideo

    May 29, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    Ooops! Sorry, I can’t count! Thats to all THREE of you!!!!

  • Mark Maness

    May 29, 2007 at 6:51 pm

    [audiovideo] “Any suggestion as far as what settings to use in Compressor in FCP S2?”

    The highest quality you can fit on your DVD is the best setting. I’ve never had any issues using the 90 min setting for doing DVDs of broadcast programs.

    _______________________________

    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions
    http://www.schazamproductions.com
    https://blogs.creativecow.net/waynecarey

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