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    Posted by Joost Zeeveneegelbeek on January 16, 2019 at 12:58 pm

    I’m working with three video tracks in an edit using SVP12. While making the sequence I encountered no problem. After restarting I tried to render, which seemed to go fine for the most part. But in the second half suddenly the image of two files disappeared completely, another kept flickering from the original image to the color corrected one and back, and the render didn’t complete. I refreshed the files of which the image disappeared from the backup I had made, but now even in preview one of them remains invisable. When I double click on the file it will play in ms Mediaplayer without a problem. Also the image appears on my time line. It just remains invisible when previewing of rendering. So where is it?

    George Dean replied 7 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Steve Rhoden

    January 16, 2019 at 1:54 pm

    Are these media files stored on an external hard-drive?
    If it is, place them on your main drive and see.

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  • Joost Zeeveneegelbeek

    January 16, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    Thanks for replying.
    All files are on the same internal hard disk, which is not the one SVP12 is on (that is an ssd).
    The file that gives me the most problems, is one from a smartphone camera. It’s in portrait mode hd. I can get it on the time line no problem, it also appears and plays in the preview window now, but it just won’t render, no matter what I try.
    When I frame it in landscape mode for my project, the image sometimes doesn’t appear in the crop window. Only a solid red frame. During rendering the preview turns black. Sometimes the rendering proces ends in an error message, sometimes it takes forever and I end it, sometimes it says it’s finished but the rendered file doesn’t play and won’t be accepted by SVP, sometimes it plays but the screen is black.
    A few years back I used hd shot with a smartphone in SVP12 and had no problems. But then I didn’t try and fit it in a standard hd project (landscape format).

  • George Dean

    January 16, 2019 at 3:46 pm

    Hi Joost,

    I would use Mediainfo (text mode) and check the frame rate of the problem source media. Most likely it is variable frame rate, and Vegas likes constant frame rate. If so I would use Handbrake or Any Video Converter (or others) to convert it from variable to constant and then do a test render.

    Sometime I load variable rate and it works in Vegas, but mostly if I use FX’s or resizing, etc. the variable frame rate sooner or later goes crazy.

    Best Regards……George

  • Dimitrios Papadimitriou

    January 16, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    Does turning off gpu video acceleration do anything? It would often cause dead spaces color flickering and wouldn’t let effects work right in the preview screen for me.

  • Joost Zeeveneegelbeek

    January 16, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    Hi George,

    Yep, that was the problem! Many thanks. I installed Any Video Converter, and with the new file it will render. One little drawback: the image quality has gone down from hd to sd, although AVC says it is hd. And the image has been cropped. I tried converting it to m2t, but although Vegas can supply that format as output, it doesn’t work using it for input. Which format should I use to get the best result?

    Joost

  • Joost Zeeveneegelbeek

    January 16, 2019 at 6:26 pm

    Hi Dimitrios,

    gpu video acceleration is off by default. I start up all my projects with it off. I had trouble because of this option before, so I leave it off now.

    To George:
    the original file is over 2Gb, the converted file is 376 Mb, so no wonder it looks like shit. I chose high quality, 2 pass conversion and hd. Should I use other software, or am I doing something wrong?

  • George Dean

    January 16, 2019 at 7:52 pm

    Hi Joost,

    I would try ‘Custom MP4 Movie’ from the presets. Then click on the ‘Video’ options. select ‘x264’ video codec, increase the ‘Video Bitrate’ to ‘12000’. Make sure the ‘Frame Rate’ matches your project or source media. Try those settings. If that doesn’t work out I would download the free Handbrake and select a preset from the right colunm that matches the project settings of your Vegas project.

    I don’t have a smart phone so I don’t have any samples on hand to test.

    Best Regards……George

  • Joost Zeeveneegelbeek

    January 17, 2019 at 4:59 am

    Even with the proposed settings the result is disappointing. The mp4 file is half the size of the original quicktime movie, and it shows. I’ll try Handbrake next.

    Although I have replaced the quicktime movie from the smartphone with a converted mp4 file, other video events which posed no problems before are affected. In many places on the timeline other images than that of the selected video event are visible in the preview window, often with problems like noise, flickering, shifted colors and general degredation. The problem with the smartphone video seems to be taken care of, but now the rest seems to randomly quit on me. Among these are mp4 files shot with video cameras.
    How can I get the project to behave like it did before?

  • Joost Zeeveneegelbeek

    January 17, 2019 at 5:42 am

    Tried Handbrake. I can find no preset that exactly matches my project settings, but chose H.264 MKV 1080p30 and after 20 minutes got a 414Mb file outof the 2.09Gb original. That makes no sense to me and is worse than the still unacceptable picture I get from AVC. The original quicktime movie looks fine. The converted file is compressed way too much.

  • George Dean

    January 17, 2019 at 3:34 pm

    Hi Joost,

    Well, we are shooting in the dark attempting to get a quick solution. That isn’t working and wasting your time. So let’s start from the beginning. If you haven’t already done so, please download the free app ‘Mediainfo’ https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

    Start this program and select the ‘View’ tab and select ‘Text’ mode. Then select ‘File’ and load your source media. Copy and paste this info (or post a screenshot) for each of your different source media files. Also take a screenshot and post it of your ‘Project Properties’, render format ‘Template’ settings, and also your preview window.

    Then we can go from there……Thank You

    Best Regards……George

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