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  • Andy Patterson

    November 26, 2017 at 12:01 am

    [Shane Ross] ” With having everything (except my IO box and my RAID) contained in a small area, not strewn about and connected by squid-like tentacles. It is so nice to have it all in one place.”

    I’m hip. My Windows 10 PC work station is free of squid-like tentacles : )

    https://youtu.be/7iBupfKWP28

  • Shane Ross

    November 26, 2017 at 12:06 am

    [Gabriele Sartori] “I built many Hackintosh for fun but I would never do a serious job on them. All it takes is a driver and you can be without machine for days”

    True, which is why I make sure I have the correct drivers, and don’t update anyting. Been using this Hack for nothing BUT professional work for over a year, on a couple dozen projects. But yes, they do take babying for sure

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Oliver Peters

    November 26, 2017 at 12:55 am

    [Bob Zelin] “the starting price $4999 won’t do much for a power machine”

    Well… The comparable 8-core 2013 MP is also $5K and I would say it has plenty of power for graphics, editing, audio post and color correction. That’s without the display, Thunderbolt3 and built-in 10GigE. So I think we’ll find out in the real world that’s a damn fine machine.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Don Walker

    November 26, 2017 at 3:33 am

    After years of waiting to replace my 2008 8-core MacPro, it looks like December will be new computer month for me. I do a lot of FCPX and Motion work, (some with 4K footage), very little After Effects, and I have not yet gone down the Resolve path. It seems to me, that even though I’m tempted to go for the entry level iMac Pro (perhaps with a bigger SSD), my best bet would be to buy a top of the line iMac, with 3rd party RAM, and then have enough money left over to buy a modest laptop for those on the road jobs. Can anyone argue that I would be better off with the iMac Pro?

    don walker
    texarkana, texas

    John 3:16

  • Andy Patterson

    November 26, 2017 at 3:44 am

    [Oliver Peters] “[Bob Zelin] “the starting price $4999 won’t do much for a power machine”

    Well… The comparable 8-core 2013 MP is also $5K and I would say it has plenty of power for graphics, editing, audio post and color correction. That’s without the display, Thunderbolt3 and built-in 10GigE. So I think we’ll find out in the real world that’s a damn fine machine.”

    I don’t think he said it would not work. The question is would a Windows 10 system make more sense if you are using DR 12, Premiere Pro or Avid.

    Never under estimate the performance of a $1400.00 gaming PC for video editing. Who knows what performance increases Volta will offer?

  • Oliver Peters

    November 26, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    [andy patterson] “The question is would a Windows 10 system make more sense if you are using DR 12, Premiere Pro or Avid”

    And I didn’t say that he did. With all due respect, going PC or not is your question. Yes, I know Bob brought it up, but it’s doubtful if that’s what Steve was asking in his original post. Very few professionals are going to go away from a mainstream PC if they go Windows, which generally means Dell or HP.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Steve Connor

    November 26, 2017 at 3:02 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Who know when the next Mac Pro will be released. I doubt it will be 2018 and right now there seem to be Apple supply chain issues (HomePod). I suspect Apple will weigh the sales of and response to the iMac Pro before getting too deep into the Mac Pro. “

    If the iMac Pro performs as expected I don’t think I’ll bother waiting for the new Mac Pro, as you say chances are it might be 2019 anyway.

    \”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka

  • Andy Patterson

    November 26, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “And I didn’t say that he did. With all due respect, going PC or not is your question. Yes, I know Bob brought it up, but it’s doubtful if that’s what Steve was asking in his original post.”

    I know Steve is not going to switch to Windows but your response was for Bob. Bob’s question was worth mentioning. Keep in mind for Graphic Designers the MS Surface Studio has offered a option that Apple cannot match. If a Mac user does not use FCPX at all switching to Windows might be something they are considering especially if Apple is asking to much over the competition.

    As I stated some Apple users have given up on their iPad Pro in favor of the MS Surface Pro with good reason. I am not saying the iPad Pro does not work. I will say what if Apple made OS X with touch screen support and they offered an iPad Extreme with OS X and an i7 CPU. Would the iPad Pro that everyone loves become obsolete within 2 months after the release of the iPad Extreme?

    Shane has mentioned he might make the switch Windows 10 on his blog https://lfhd.net. Will he do it? Who knows? I will say that if Apple offered a generic ATX system with a six core Coffee Lake CPU and a GTX 1080 Ti for $1700.00 I am sure the Mac Pro trash can would become obsolete with in two months. Why do I say that? When I see Apple users with iMacs, Apple laptops or even the Trash Can make use of an External GPU I see them using an Nvidia GTX 980 Ti or a GTX 1080. Why can’t Apple just offer better products? I know Apple will never release a Generic ATX system because Apple does what it is best for Apple not the consumer. The question is how long can Apple continue to do this? I think that is what Bob was hinting at.

    Apple users should not have to build hackintoshes or buy external Nvidia GPUs. That type of paradigm might make some people switch platforms (Windows). Having said that I know Steve will probably be happy with an iMac Pro but not everyone will be. I think it is worth mentioing considering Shane is not the only one on this thread who built a hackintosh.

  • Gabriele Sartori

    November 26, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    Take the highest possible clock and probably you have the most bangs for the bucks. Consider also the support for Quicksync that is not available (yet) on Xeon CPUs.

    Gabriele – California

  • Rich Rubasch

    November 26, 2017 at 7:23 pm

    I am wondering if the new iMac Pros would even ship in December….looked at a current fully loaded iMac that they sell today and curious if the GPU is that underpowered that it would not compare. I can full load up two current 27″ iMacs for about $5000 each.

    Biggest thing the new iMac Pro offers us is 10gig e networking. if the trash cans had implemented 10gig e years ago I would have four of them….currently we run souped up 2010-2012 towers.

    With 10gig e networking and a switch along with local thunderboldt RAID storage we’d be ready for sharing, editing and collaborating.

    Do I really need the iMac Pro, or could a fully maxed out iMac tide us over for 1-2 years?

    Rich Rubasch
    Tilt Media Inc.
    Video Production, Post, Studio Sound Stage
    Founder/President/Editor/Designer/Animator
    https://www.tiltmedia.com

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