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  • Eric Santiago

    December 3, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    The last few weeks had me in an HP Z840 for a feature cut on Avid.

    Spare you guys the details but I am so glad I use a platform (Mac) that doesn’t require me to keep digging into the OS just to mount or use a new app.

    Sure the HP Z840 destroys the nMP D700 in transcoding speeds but I don’t mind waiting and enjoying life while it works for me ☺

    I for one can’t wait for the new Mac Pro or to see how the iMac Pro fares.

    I say that emotionally 😉

  • Greg Janza

    December 3, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    Steve, the comment was not meant to be patronizing at all. I’m simply arguing that the emotional connection to Apple sometimes clouds thinking. I was a mac loyalist for more than 20 years and so I’m using my own experience as a reference point. And once I divorced myself from my own emotional attachment to the Apple brand I was able to objectively assess all of the options that were out there for an edit system.

    It’s one thing if you’re a dedicated FCPX user but the loyalty to the Apple brand goes far beyond the simple logic of using Apple software.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Oliver Peters

    December 3, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    [greg janza] “I’m simply arguing that the emotional connection to Apple sometimes clouds thinking”

    I don’t think it’s just that. Apple has been very good about creating an ecosystem. Many of us, me included, have availed themselves of that. So, if you have a ton of documents in Pages/Numbers/Keynote, or have invested in a lot of platform-specific plug-ins, or have your music organized in iTunes, or pictures organized in Aperture or Photos, then it’s a more difficult shift. You aren’t simply moving an NLE to another platform, but nearly everything else you do.

    Even if the PC is a cheaper alternative, you have a lot of other costs involved in time and money to migrate the rest of your personal ecosystem to another platform. The deeper you are in, the easier the decision to stay within the Apple fold. And the more the cost differential becomes a wash.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Shane Ross

    December 3, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    [Steve Connor] “I don’t know a single person that uses FCPX as their primary NLE on a Hackintosh and I’d be interested to see if anyone here has one they use as their main Edit system?

    I use it as my main edit system. I built it to run Resolve primarily, but I do also use Avid and Adobe on it….all of them professionally. I have run FCX on it, mainly to grab missing elements from the offline that I need in online…as a vast majority of the onlines I have done came from FCX. But yes, I use a Hackintosh as my main editing computer. The only issues I’ve had with it apparently plague the nMacPro (tubes) too…rendering in Resolve (in the MacOS) overheats the computer and causes it to restart. My solution to that is to render at a lower speed.

    Shane
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  • Oliver Peters

    December 3, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    [Shane Ross] “as a vast majority of the onlines I have done came from FCX”

    It’s a bit off-topic (what isn’t on the COW), but since there’s so much speculation of how much “pro” use there is of X, it would be nice to have some more details here.

    [Shane Ross] “The only issues I’ve had with it apparently plague the nMacPro (tubes) too…rendering in Resolve (in the MacOS) overheats the computer and causes it to restart”

    Huh? I run a nMP and have never had that type of issue. The only issues I encounter are random render glitches with Adobe apps (only), because they overheat the GPU.

    AFAIK, the core issue is that only Apple’s software evenly distributes GPU load to both GPUs in the nMP simultaneously. All other software hits the first one hard and then overflows to the second. That’s probably why the “Deadpool” crew burned through several machines. I don’t get that same problem when I use “software rendering” in the Adobe apps on the nMP, nor when I render on an older tower or an iMac.

    It’s in recognition of the fact that Apple’s design was out of step with the rest of the engineering in the industry, that Apple decided to drop this dual-GPU configuration in its new designs.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Bernard Newnham

    December 3, 2017 at 8:45 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Firstly welcome back Bernard it’s nice to hear from you”

    Thank you – very kind. I must admit that I was expecting to ghost through and depart, but reading this thread is quite nostalgic, though as I said the balance does seem to have changed.

    Several years ago I responded to a challenge by Jeremy Garchow to cost similarly specced Macs and PCs. The PC won hands down, and it could be updated at any time – I imagine the same could be said now. Lots of people seem to have now worked that out, though a man a few posts up says ” that doesn’t require me to keep digging into the OS just to mount or use a new app.”. Don’t know what he’s been trying. Windows NT?

    Bernie

  • Greg Janza

    December 3, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    Oliver, yes that makes sense as well.

    My transition to PC from Mac was made easier due to the fact that even though I was a long time mac user I never committed to the mac ecosystem. Instead, I adopted the google ecosystem basically from day 1 and therefore my migration to PC has been without the added workload that others might face.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

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