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Andrew Kimery
December 1, 2017 at 6:55 pm[Bill Davis] “This to me is a logical progression of the changes I’ve experienced over the past six years. “
I think it boils down to Shane’s point that different parts of the industry require different solutions. I think for people working in commercials, trailers, corporate, etc., you are correct that ‘locked’ means more ‘locked for now’ as opposed to ‘locked for good’. I used to work at a place that did a lot radio and TV commercials for touring artists and the same basic spots, with minor tweaks/updates, would get used for years and years. It’s was a continuous update cycle as opposed to starting from scratch every time.
On the flip side, once a movie, TV show, episode of web series, etc., goes out the door it’s done. Iron Man 2 isn’t a re-release of the first Iron Man with a few changes, it’s a whole new movie from the ground up.
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Oliver Peters
December 1, 2017 at 7:03 pm[Andrew Kimery] “I don’t think Bill is talking about that. “
Wish all due respect to Bill, it’s sometimes hard to tell when he’s talking about the current real world and when he’s drifted off into how he imagines the world could be, extrapolating from existing processes and technologies. ☺ Hence my question. (No offense meant, Bill.)
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Oliver Peters
December 1, 2017 at 7:12 pm[Bill Davis] “There is no actual MASTER or VERSION as a stand-alone thing”
Bill, I get what you are doing and in many ways it’s pretty neat. Unfortunately the real world is simply too unreliable to depend on that.
For example, look at my Flow transition comment in the regular FCPX forum. I get unreliable and unpredictable results with this effect, simply based on how long X has been open and working. If I generate a standalone master file, then I can QC it, be responsible for its specs, and know that when I make copies from it, I’m always starting from a known, ‘good’ starting point.
Plus, what happens to your master export when Apple does something like the change between 10.0 and 10.1 with Libraries? Then, all of a sudden, your raw, unmastered sequences are FUBARed? Sure would be nice to have a standalone master, as well as textless, split track masters to fall back on. ☺
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Bernard Newnham
December 2, 2017 at 8:49 pmThis is the first time I’ve been back to this forum for a year or more. I’m rather surprised to find that after all this time people are still waiting on “the next MacPro, iMac, whatever” to come out, but less surprised that there’s a whole load more people that have moved to Hackintoshes and indeed PCs.
I made my own move a few years ago, when FCP7 went away. The Hackintosh that had replaced the G4 was easily re-purposed into a W7 PC, and first Edius then Premiere replaced FCP7. Some people seem a bit obsessed by operating systems, but as someone else points out – you’re in the application most of the time, so who cares? I’ve been through a lot of of operating systems down the years, and like different cars they’re all different and all the same.
Being able to update at any point for much less money than buying a Mac would seem to be a no brainer, but I’m just a now retired BBCtv producer/editor/cameraman etc. These days I teach uni students, but need to keep up so as to not lose cred factor. There’s a lots of delivery format discussion here, but in the UK this has been standardised for delivery to the big broadcasters as AS11. See – https://www.digitalproductionpartnership.co.uk/publications/theme/as-11/
Bernie
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Greg Janza
December 2, 2017 at 10:36 pm[Bernard Newnham] “Being able to update at any point for much less money than buying a Mac would seem to be a no brainer”
I agree. However, as with so many other things in life, emotion often plays a larger role in decision making rather than objective analytical thought.
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Michael Gissing
December 2, 2017 at 10:42 pm[Greg Janza] “I agree. However, as with so many other things in life, emotion often plays a larger role in decision making rather than objective analytical thought.”
To be fair if you want to run FCPX and you don’t want to be dealing with potential driver issues etc with a Hack then it does make sense and these forum musings are objective reasoning given the constraints.
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Bill Davis
December 3, 2017 at 4:09 am[Oliver Peters] “Wish all due respect to Bill, it’s sometimes hard to tell when he’s talking about the current real world and when he’s drifted off into how he imagines the world could be, extrapolating from existing processes and technologies. ☺ Hence my question. (No offense meant, Bill.)”
None taken.
This is the “conceive it, believe it, achieve it” process in action.
I’ve learned that if I don’t start by imagining working a different way – I never will.
What’s shocked me so much in the past half decade – is how few actual dead ends I’ve encountered when I’ve allowed myself to stop thinking the way ai used to and tried to move on to something better by altering my process.
It’s spooky how much better things appear to be now (at least in my working processes!) than they’ve ever been before.
Better, faster, cheaper tools – that are a LOT more fun to use – combined with new ways to reach audiences that were undreamed of not that long ago.
What an amazing time to be involved in Creative Arts!
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Steve Connor
December 3, 2017 at 1:43 pm[Bernard Newnham] “Being able to update at any point for much less money than buying a Mac would seem to be a no brainer, “
Firstly welcome back Bernard it’s nice to hear from you, secondly the issue for many of us is not cost particularly but it’s more about reliability and utility. I don’t know a single person that uses FCPX as their primary NLE on a Hackintosh and I’d be interested to see if anyone here has one they use as their main Edit system?
\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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Steve Connor
December 3, 2017 at 1:43 pm[Bill Davis] “What an amazing time to be involved in Creative Arts!
“Amen to that!
\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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Steve Connor
December 3, 2017 at 1:45 pm[greg janza] “I agree. However, as with so many other things in life, emotion often plays a larger role in decision making rather than objective analytical thought.”
Hugely patronising comment there Greg, for me staying with Mac was an objective decision NOT an emotional one
\”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka
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