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Illustrator turns 25 today. Thoughts on it, Luddites and FCP X
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[Herb Sevush] “[Bill Davis] “If that’s true Herb, then we should have seen all the traffic here migrate to the Premier and Vegas, and AVID boards. ”
Go check out the PPro board and you’ll find a bunch of the names that used to pop up here last spring.
“And, the Octo-mom gets more attention then most other mothers. Can you infer from that, that she has a superior method for raising children?
[Herb Sevush] “[Bill Davis] “Legacy EOL has been a fact for the best part of a year. Plenty of time for people to have left it for another program. ”
Actually, it’s not. I want to change, but I’m still committed to Legacy for now. I was hoping to be able to switch before June, when we start our next season, but that’s dependent on what happens in April. It’s possible, though I am loath to admit it, that I will still be on Legacy for another year. I don’t think I’m that rare a case.
“Not at all. I’m in a similar boat with much of my work. And, that has to do with several factors beyond my immediate control. Many people I know are in the same place, as well.
[Herb Sevush] “[Bill Davis] “I’d argue that the health of this board is ABSOLUTE proof of the “intrinsic” merit of X. It’s sparked and generated the largest on-going on-line debate of NLE design, structure and use that any of us have ever seen.”
You’d argue and I’d disagree. I’d argue that if this product was released by Boris or Grass Valley you’d never have heard of it, much less used it. I’d further argue that if Apple had released this product concurrent with ongoing support of Legacy this “debate” forum would be unnecessary. This forum is testament to the power of Apple and the dominance of FCP. The Techniques forum is proof of the merit of X, and that forum is quite busy indeed.”Again, Octo-mom. Is she the mother of all moms, or what?
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The Octo-mom…Wow.
The mother of analogies.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “The Octo-mom…Wow.
The mother of analogies.
“Hey, I was just askin’!
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So now Bill is the Mozart of posting?
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[Bill Davis] “Tell me the name of the other NLEs what have such an editing interface via front end data management database access windows right up front in the editing interface.”
Sony Vegas has been doing this since version 6 (I believe). Search, tagging, key wording all built on top of SQL Server 200x and integrated directly in the UI.
I haven’t used Vegas regulary for about two years… but those functions were very useful when I was using it heavily.
Shawn
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Nope Chris,
I’m supposed to be the Saleari (sp) of posting. The untalented hack that can’t grasp that he simply lacks Mozart’s talent yet THINKS he does.
It does beg the question, I suppose who gets the Mozart role here.
I doubt DRW thinks it’s him.
So whom?
Walter, perhaps?
I hesitate to nominate Randy Ubillos – but in truth, as the lead designer of more than one of the most successful NLES on the planet, he’s probably the closest we’ve got.
Then again, he still has his active finger prints all over X, so I suspect that no matter how smart, experienced or capable he might be – the priesthood of the Great Church of Traditional Editing (at least via it’s priesthood represented here) has branded him a heretic so no statues are to be allowed during his lifetime.
Faith is such a cruel mistress.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Bill Davis] “I’m supposed to be the Saleari (sp) of posting. The untalented hack that can’t grasp that he simply lacks Mozart’s talent yet THINKS he does.”
No, Salieri knew he was a hack and hated both Mozart and God because of it; envied Mozart for the talent he wished he had, hated God for giving him just enough talent to appreciate what a hack he was.
Great movie, by the way.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Doesn’t look like FCPX to me, but it’s just a screen grab. “
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos
http://www.ogallchoir.net
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[Walter Soyka] “Unless FCPX develops some sort of metadata portability, will it ever be more than this?
“I think so.
The dreaded analogy is the iPod story. Apple (and/or Jobs) didn’t invent the personal portable player, the digital cataloging idea, or the hard disk tech that enabled it.
He just combined all of those existing technologies into a comprehensive, easy to approach whole – simultaneously taking the “friction” out of obtaining the music the public wanted at terms they preferred – and in doing so, changed everything.
I think X is on a similar path. Increasingly, people want to edit visual content for themselves. Faced with that, the older creation tools were largely over designed and too complex for all the but top level specialists.
X won’t make everyone an editor. (neither will iMovie or a video editing app that Windows 8 might provide.) Editing is simply too time consuming and complex for all but the dedicated and those who need to make video to try to drive financial results in some fashion. But it will make it possible for more people to edit at more levels then in the past.
And that will be an overall boon to society – but will come at a price to both specialists and to the general audience who will have to learn to better “filter” out the core of the flood of public messages that can increasingly be built with more sophistication by more editors – including content that can be mis-leading or down right fraudulent.
Things are changing. X is just a part of that. I feel it will become a serious contender, precisely because the foundational thinking behind it matches very closely what a modern mass business audience wants a smart business visual communications editing app to be.
We’ll see.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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