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I wish FCPX adopted these Premiere Pro features
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[David Powell] “What am I doing wrong? I have a nearly identical setup 24 gigs of ram and Premiere 2015 crashes every 5 minutes. It’s horrible.”
This is no consolation, of course, but I haven’t run across this on any of the machines I routinely work with. However, something to check is the drivers for an external i/o gear. Typically when I install an update, I re-install the AJA or BMD drivers as the last step. Usually these will also have been updated. In the case of BMD, sometimes their driver updates are questionable and a lot of users end up back-revving the drivers (Desktop Video package). These issues seem to affect Avid and Adobe more so than FCPX.
I have noticed that the CC installations seem to be more touchy when it comes to corrupt home directories. I just did a round of updates at a local college’s film program. These are their edit bays and I have volunteered time each year to get these up to snuff for the incoming class. I found at least one machine that crashed each time I tried to launch an Adobe application other than Photoshop or Illustrator.
I ended up reformatting the drive and doing a complete clean install. After that, all went well. That machine had been updated via migration for several years in a row and I believe that was the root cause of the problem. So my word of warning, as you look El Capitan in the eye, is to consider a complete, clean re-install of EVERYTHING.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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“Get rid of the unnecessary angles in the finished timeline”
You see the multicam clip in the FCP X timeline, not unused angles.
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[Scot Walker] “You see the multicam clip in the FCP X timeline, not unused angles.”
Correct. I want the multicam flattened to leave you with the essence of the selected clip.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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[Oliver Peters] “Correct. I want the multicam flattened to leave you with the essence of the selected clip”
For me, it shows me the name of the clip and the thumb of the clip, just like any other clip in the timeline.
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[Scot Walker] “For me, it shows me the name of the clip and the thumb of the clip, just like any other clip in the timeline.”
But it is still a multicam container. I’ve run into issues, mainly with audio, where this was a huge problem and I ended up having to break the item apart.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
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You’re right, Herb. How silly of me to exhibit the type of thinking that focuses on things that are new and interesting about something – rather than Ignoring anything innovative that might be happening in order to validate the opinions I developed back when I was being taught “how editing must be done to be a pro.”
I was so dumb to have been interested in stuff like the database and the then new ideas like the magnetic timeline – when all the old dogs had their noses pressed hard into their anger that Apple had the gall to change things.
Oddly, today my silly little NLE continues to help me work faster and smarter and I get to bring new honest enthusiasm to my work every day. Just yesterday, the client had a major change of direction in a video we’re building. In the past, I would have been pissed about all the work lost. But with X, it’s not. All the hours and hours I’ve done in the database key wording and sorting are all preserved ready to re-visualize – and so I could just smile and say “no problem.”
X editing is “happier editing” for me. So much friction is now gone from the process. It’s fun.
You want to call that “fanboy ism” go for it. the thing I’m a fan of just gets better and faster and more exciting.
Which is cool.
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[Oliver Peters] “But it is still a multicam container. I’ve run into issues, mainly with audio, where this was a huge problem and I ended up having to break the item apart”
I was responding to your comment ” Get rid of the unnecessary angles in the finished timeline” and that’s just not the case. You never ever see unused angles in the main timeline. You need to go to the angle editor to see those angles.
In regards to a multicam clip having issues with audio, what are your issues? And how did you “break the item apart”? I’m not really sure how you do that. Maybe I can help.
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Trying to learn and also help …
[Oliver Peters] “Control of preset locations for “scratch disks”
Select a Library, select Library Properties from File menu. Click on Modify Settings next to Storage Locations. You can define Media location, the Cache (scratch), and the Backups.
“Project consolidation with transcode and trim functions”
What does “with transcode and trim functions” mean? You can definitely consolidate and you have the option to consolidate it with the optimized media (transcoded media) and proxies or not.
“”Save as” for Libraries “
Libraries are self contained and have all the media inside that and so if you want to duplicate or move, etc., you just use the Finder.
Events, on the other hand, contain your projects and there is a Move Event feature and Copy Event feature, under the File menu.
“Tabbed sequences”
Totally agree and I don’t know why they use the arrow back and forth between compounds, projects, etc. They should have tabs up there for you to go between all those things.
Also agree about being able to customize the UI more. I hate having to click on Video or Audio in the Inspector. I should be able to have those both visible at the same time. What’s weird is Apple’s Motion used to allow you to do that and save it as a preset, but then they made it like FCP X in this regard. Stupid.
Add to this list the fact that it doesn’t page or scroll the timeline as you play. Even iMovie does that.
“Integration with Motion”
FCP X has always had integration with Motion. A Motion project is saved as a Generator and that shows up in your Generator tab in FCP X. Motion allows you to save as FCP X templates too.
FCP X / Motion have more powerful integration than Premiere Pro / AE through “rigging and publishing”. Premiere Pro has Live Text templates, right? This allows you to edit your text from an AE project right in Premiere Pro without having to go to AE. FCP X does that too, but much more. It allows you to change all aspects of the text including the font, the color, etc. Not only that, you can alter any parameter you want on any object from Motion. You just rig it that way. So, for example, if you create an animated lower third in Motion and you have a rectangle shape under the text, you can tell it that the rectangle shape color can be picked in FCP X – Blue, Orange, Yellow, Red. So all of the effects and animations and everything stay the same, but inside FCP X you can click on a pop-up menu and the color will be listed. It’s very powerful.
FCP X definitely needs the ability to allow me to define my Editing applications so if I double-click on a .PSD, it opens it up in Photoshop. The same with audio, etc. Don’t know why they haven’t done this. It’s a basic feature. Right now, you have to Reveal in Finder and then double-click that because the Finder has default open preferences.
“Some type of master audio bus with the ability to add compression and limiting”
I use compression and limiting in FCP X all the time. It supports all the Logic effects and OS X Audio Unit effects, along with its own.
If you want to apply an effect to the entire project, select your main timeline and turn it into a compound and then apply your limiter and compressor on that. You can also do color grading this way if you want to lower the saturation to the entire project without having to grade each clip.
“Better control of split audio edits with transitions”
Expanding the audio of any clip allows you to manually edit it and it ignores your transitions.
“A “render and replace” function with re-edit abilities”
FCP X automatically renders and replaces in the background. It’s optimizing your project to ProRes all the time. I have this option turned off because my Mac is capable of playing native RED r3d files, for example, without having to transcode it. But what if I have a complex sequence with several FX and animations, etc., and it slows down every time it gets to that point. I can select it and then Render Selection. It will render a ProRes in the background and replace automatically.
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[Oliver Peters] “I follow the “you will be judged by your timeline” mantra”
LOL. So true. Coming from the old days of linear editing and GVG’s Auto Clean function (blessed be its name), I completely get the clean timeline compulsion. As someone who manually brings all b-roll down into V1 in my Avid timelines, I find that connecting clips in X forces me to accept a…shall we say, different timeline aesthetic. 😉 (As an aside, I surely do wish Avid had an equivalent to FCP Legacy’s option-up or down arrow to move clips vertically into or out of tracks. So much unnecessary mousing and undoing-redoing with command-drag.)
I understand your point now. I hadn’t considered all those unused pieces of angles going across in an XML. I assume you or someone else has done a test to see if all those hidden angles really do go across…
Given the ability to flatten or finalize an audition, it would seem like a fairly easy thing to achieve at at timeline level.
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Sigh. I guess there was a time when the “beat up on Bill” game was sometimes amusing. Now it just seems tired and a little sad.
But – on to actual discussion!
I find Premiere to be a little sluggish on two different systems: 4-ish-year-old Mac Pro towers running Mavericks with BMD cards and connected to a Facilis TerraBlock via fiber, and on a new MacPro with AJA T-Tap and local T- Bolt 2 storage. The BMD/TerraBlock system in particular has constant problems with sticky audio or video playback.
FCP X runs fine on both a retina MBPro and on the MacPro tube. Sometimes a slight playback delay when the timeline has lots of compound clips. Never as bad as some here have reported.
Avid runs fine on the BMD/TerraBlock systems, and seems fine on the MBPro and MacPro tube. Doesn’t feel as smooth as on an Avid with Nitris or Mojo I/O. I think there’s a secret sauce that Avid withheld when they opened it up to 3rd party video cards. (Frankly, none of the newer systems feels as lightning fast as the old ABVB Avids running on OS9 back in the day. But then, very few systems seem to run that fast anymore. Not that I’d want to go back to Meridien boards and shuttle docks…)
I find it puzzling that so many here report terrible X performance on their systems, especially compared to notoriously finicky Avids and Premiere. (I still don’t get the Premiere love. I use it, but I surely don’t like it.)
X does seem to be prone to specific system issues.Not sure how to accomplish it, but I’d really like to see if there’s anything in common with these problematic installations. Some users just don’t have good luck with X, while others (Bill, Jeremy G, Robin K, me…) don’t seem to have many issues. What’s the common factor?
Mind you, I’m only talking about smooth versus bad or buggy operation here. UI design and philosophy and user preference is a different matter.
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