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I want GREAT sound at Events from the 100B
Could you direct me to a site, DVD etc. that explains tweaking the 100B sound recording capabilities? I shoot with the 100B and got some really blown out levels at a Big band event. I need to learn how to monitor with my headphones and setting the levels so they don’t blow out. -Does anyone use Normalize on their NLE?
TR 16MM -Have camera will travel
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You may find some useful information here….
https://www.cybercollege.com/diglevels.htm
The key question you must ask yourself would be: Am I recording a
Line (high) Level audio mix or a Mic (low) level audio mix. If you say your recording of a concert was “blown out” then you had you camera set for mic level when it should have been line level, especially if the audio sounded really distorted no matter what you did with the audio level switch.Typically, equipment such as mixers, VTRs, amplifiers use line level. Mic level seems self-explanatory.
Good luck,
Tim Scarpino
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Dave,
Any favorites for the transmitter and “diversity” receiver set?
Much thanks!
Thomas
TR 16MM -100B with Sony Vegas 7.O and FCP- Have camera will travel…
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Usually, you can tap into the audio board’s sub-outs for a nice mix… NOT one of the monitor feeds. The monitors could be mixed and output for all types of different set-ups (the singer wants to hear the guitar, the bass player wants to hear more drums, the keyboardist wants to hear the vocals, etc.).
Depending on the band (and their gear), many times the audio guy will be recording to DAT for archiving. If the board doesn’t have enough outputs for your extra 2 channels, you can either use a Y-splitter XLR or take the stereo mix output from the DAT since it won’t be feeding anything.
Buy the tech a beer and show him that you have cables-in-hand before the questioning begins. At least that’s worked for me in the past. Also – nothing could annoy them faster than asking about a mic vs. line-level problem or complaining that their levels are ‘too hot’.
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Hire a sound recordist to go with you. But hire one that has their own mixer and knows what to do. He/she will know where to pull a tap from the board and will then be able to properly set the levels so that you will have a clean recording. This is a skill that is not learned on a forum on the internet. A qualified recordist will have years of on the job experience and there is a good reason why we pay them $350 to $500 a day. An option is to team up with the sound guy running the board and have him take care of your needs. Slip him $20 at least.
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat!Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
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Why not loan him your CineAlta? He should probably get the picture right while he’s at it. No harm, no foul, right?
I believe the $20 to the board wizard will suffice. Call me crazy but something tells me that if the budget allowed for an audio tech, it probably wouldn’t be getting shot on a DVX as the ‘A’ camera.
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Yeah, I figured he needed a $20 solution.
I would loan him my CineAlta but can you imagine what would happen when he had to cough up $40 for a 40 minute cassette? Oh God, there goes the rent money.
Steve Wargo
Tempe, Arizona
It’s a dry heat!Sony HDCAM F-900 & HDW-2000/1 deck
5 Final Cut Pro systems
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Too funny, Steve. As always. I wish you the best. Not sure if you’re back on the bike but looks like business is good! We’re all rootin’ for ya.
Your friend in Colorado,
Michael McIntyre
Fever City Studio, LLC
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When I need great sound I either hook up a long XLR cable directly from the sound board, or you could just hook a laptop up to the soundboard record out and record directly to the computer with a free program like Audacity, (download.com). Just make sure your levels don’t peak! Good luck.
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Good Advice all.
When recording for live events we always get a “LINE LEVEL” feed from main board. In all the years we have been at it we have never been turned down. Of course you’ll need to approach the sound people properly. They can get testy.
Using a cable to camera is a no-no in my book as it is an insurance issue if someone trips. Unless you stay right next to board to shoot. PLus, being tied to cable limits your creativity.
Always use line level and be sure to get program out not monitor as was mentioned above.
In your kit make sure to carry 1/4 to XLR male and female as some boards don’t have XLR outs. Also, it is a good idea to carry a mic/line pad. Especially in Rock and roll or live events. One other thing, get a great pair of headsets!
A good inexpensive diversity wireless system is the Sennheiser 100. Over 1500 channels and plenty of settings for internal pad. One this with using wireless hop is you’ll need to check frequencies with sound mixer. But with 1500 channels that shouldn’t be a problem.
Hope this helps.
Rob
2 Ikegami’s
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Excellent addition, Rob… Especially the cable -> camera conundrum.
Also – that Sennheiser 100 setup looks very promising.
Michael
Fever City Studio, LLC
1035 madison
denver 80206
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