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  • I have to say CS6 is very sluggish with Mac Decklink.

  • Peter Corbett

    May 21, 2012 at 6:39 am

    I’m noticing that scrubbing on Blackmagic timelines is VERY sluggish, sometimes completely jamming. Response seems worse than 5.5. I don’t have benchmarks to show, but anecdotally it just feels worse. I have an 8-core Mac pro with 32gb memory, 8TB RAID and Quadro 4800 so it’s not my system.

    I’m hoping an OSX patch is coming soon. M2V files also import in the wrong pixel ratio. This doesn’t happen on my CS6 PC.

    Peter Corbett
    Powerhouse Productions
    http://www.php.com.au

  • ninetto makavejev

    May 21, 2012 at 8:53 am

    I know that it neither helpful nor proper entiquette to simply complain about a product, but after years of struggling with a Decklink HD-extreme cards on various systems, I would be very cautious about recommending BMD-products until I see the proof that they reliably work.

    Really, for VERY simple tasks, the Decklink card would do its job, e.g. capturing from DigiBeta, etc. but as soon as it had to play ball with Premiere ( I have used various versions of the Decklink cards since Premiere CS3) it was touch-and-go, tons of illogical glitches that never really went away. Such simple stuff like the presets for 25p / 1080 just never worked. Why on earth are the presets there then?

    Maybe some of the other BMD-products fare better, but I am very skeptical. If I didn’t still have to deal with DigiBeta I would have long got rid of the Decklink card.

    The problem with pixel-ratios you mention is pretty common with Quicktime/OSX, so that one cannot be blamed on BMD at least…
    Anyway I wish you better luck and thanks at least for a chance to blow off some steam! best, ninetto

  • Tom Daigon

    May 21, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    DO NOT USE BM TIMELINES WITH CS6! 😀

    If you have the latest drivers for your BM device, Adobe Transmit (new to CS6) lets you use regular Adobe sequences from now on.You get great performance and CUDA if you have a graphics card that supports it.

    Transmit is hidden and a part of the software in CS6. Its a real break through in timeline playback performance.

    Tom Daigon
    PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.7.3
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digital / Areca 8tb. raid
    Kona 3

  • Paul Jay

    May 21, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Even with matched codec timelines there’s at least a 2 frames delay on the Blackmagic Output.
    Tested on several systems.

    10.7.3
    Premiere CS6
    9.5.1 BMD drivers.

  • Tom Daigon

    May 21, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    Not a fan of BMD. AJA Kona 3 is my choice.

    Tom Daigon
    PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.7.3
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digital / Areca 8tb. raid
    Kona 3

  • Chris Borjis

    May 21, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    I’ve had my share of black magic frustration, but my multibridge-extreme
    has worked perfectly with CS 6 since day one.

    way better than cs 5.5 ever did.

    I have been using the black-magic timelines even though I don’t need to.

    Peter, its possible you have a corrupt installation of CS 6.

    I’ve read about other users having issues, then re-installing
    and the issues are gone. something to consider.

  • Tom Daigon

    May 21, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    Chris, why why would you use the BM timeline when its unnecessary and prevents you from taking advantage of CUDA (if you have a graphics card that supports it)? I dont understand the logic.

    Tom Daigon
    PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    Mac Pro 3,1
    8 core
    10.7.3
    Nvidia Quadro 4000
    24 gigs ram
    Maxx Digital / Areca 8tb. raid
    Kona 3

  • Justin Ferar

    May 21, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    I just finished my first paid project with P6.

    Black Magic Intensity is a dog as well with CS6

    1. Audio is flakey – especially scrubbing. Sometimes you have to play a few seconds and let it grab the audio before trying to find the in point of an audio cue point.

    2. 5 frames latency which is just maddening!

    3. Sometime you press play and the first few frames are not in sync, then it reorganizes itself skipping a few frames and syncs up with audio but 10 percent of the time it actually doesn’t sync up.

    It has to be said that this is the first driver for P6. I remember the same issues with FCP when Intensity first arrived. It shortly became EXTREMELY rock solid.

    I have other issues with P6 which will force me to go back to FCP 7 but this first experiment with Adobe Transmit and Black Magic certainly didn’t help!

  • Chris Borjis

    May 21, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    [Tom Daigon] ” why would you use the BM timeline when its unnecessary and prevents you from taking advantage of CUDA”

    Hi Tom,

    CUDA works just fine in the BMD timeline.

    I read somewhere that there are some advantages to using the card vendor timeline.
    wish I remembered where I read it. I’d post it for you.

    I just started a new client project today.
    sony NXCAM avchd.

    I’ve started editing that in an AVCHD instead of BMD and it works just as well.

  • Chris Borjis

    May 21, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    I have the audio lag but not very often.

    also some sort of popping/distortion, sometimes I have to close CS 6 and
    re-open to get it to go away.

    It’s been mostly solid for me though. using 9.5.1 bmd driver on multibridge-extreme

    HUGE improvement from CS 5.5
    I could hardly ever get it to play a full rendered sequence all the way through
    without random stopping. Never happens in CS 6.

    I’ve done 6 client supervised sessions as of today.

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