HVX 200 shooting at 60… I don’t understand it!

[David Smith]

David,

While I’m sure there are folks here who know (I’m not one of them) there is also a Panasonic P2 forum here on the cow. You might want to read and search posts in there for some answers and post there if you don’t find what you need.

Regards,
David

[David Jakubovic]

Oh! Okay, thanks, didn’t think about that… 🙂

[Izoneguy]

Yes, visit the P2 forum…their are other helpful forums as well.
You have something like 14 different settings you can shoot at…
In FCP you have to determine what you need to deliver and go from there.
In FCP you have like 6 different editing set-ups that P2 files
can go into.
If you know where you need to go and what you have then
I could guide you in a little better…

[David Jakubovic]

Why, thank you. It’s a music video. They shot it all at 59.94 (which is a new concept to me which I don’t entirely get yet). They shot a couple of shots at 48 fps but when they import they just look all juttery and wrong. I’m trying to figure out what to do with all that… A couple of regular speed shots did that too but I reimported them and clicked “remove advanced pulldown and duplicate frames” on the import from the P2 tool.

This whole format is new to me!

[Mark Maness]

Here’s why you are confused…

Most of the time when people talk about HD especially interlaced video, its refered to as fields, not frames. Thus 60i is 60 frames of interlaced video, 59.94i is the equalivalent of 29.97.

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Wayne Carey
Schazam Productions
http://www.schazamproductions.com

[David Jakubovic]

Ah, I see! Thank you. Now, I’m starting to figure it out a little bit – if I put it on a 59.94 sequence I can cut the footage in without rendering and when I play it it seems to run okay. But, if I go frame by frame there seem to be lots of still frames. If I put the footage on a 23.976 sequence, it runs at 24 frames a second but I have to render every cut. Do you know how tro approach this?

Thanks!
David

[Shane Ross]

Edit on a 59.94 sequence. What’s wrong with that?

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[David Jakubovic]

Oh, I just don’t know – is there nothing wrong with that? (I’ve just never used this 59.94 thing before that I know about) – I just realized in the audio/video settings of FCP there is a setup for DVCPROHD 720P 60 23.98, but in the easy setup there is no such setup, only DVCPROHD 720P 60, and so I need to render all the footage I put on a 23.98 timeline. If it’s okay on a 59.94 timeline that is fine too, I guess. But is there no way to edit this footage as 24 fps without having to render? Can I reimport the p2 folders differently?

[Shane Ross]

There is an Easy Setup for 720p60, so use that. Nothing wrong with editing 59.94. It just takes up more room on the hard drive. Why are you so hungry to edit it on a 23.98 timeline? You only do that when you shot 23.98…which you didn’t. Most likely (if shot with the HVX-200) you shot 24p, but not 24PN….there’s a difference. 24P runs at 59.94, 24PN runs at 23.98. BUT…they both have the same look, so the only issue is drive space needs.

And there isn’t any way to import the footage differently, it is what it is. Hmmm…you can try to remove the pulldown when you import. FCP 5.1.1 and up has this option in the sprocket looking menu in the P2 BROWSER area of the import window. It may or may not work.

But again, why are you insisting to edit 23.98?

Shane

Littlefrog Post
http://www.lfhd.net

[David Jakubovic]

Actually that is what my concern was, that they have the same look. If it’s the same look then it’s fine with me… At the end, after I edit, if I export it to 23.98 will the cuts look the same or will some be a little off, do you know? I only ask because it might be a delivery requirement to provide a 23.98 quicktime in the end… Also, for broadcast, if I deliver a 59.94 quicktime, and they make a 29.97 tape of it, does it look like a regular pulldown tape?

Thanks!