hvx 200 1080i 24 P NOT Advanced

[Jeremy Garchow]

Use Compressor’s Reverse Telecine funciton.

It’s very easy and can run your footage in batches.

Jeremy

[Jaenet Guggenheim]

thank you jeremy,

i appreciate your reply! i just have been unable to get the compressor to work. i choose a setting, i choose a destination and then i hit submit and it says:

one or more target are incomplete

xxx

but i can’t figure out what it means, since i have chosen what it told me to choose. and i won’t even get into wondering how to change frame rate.

can you assist me further?

thanks for your time,

j

[Jaenet Guggenheim]

hi again,

i have been struggling with compressor for the last few hours. i can barely export it now. there is no reverse telecine in my compressor. at least, i can’t find it. and when i do help, i get “no results.”

where is this feature?

how do i get a clip loaded into it, chose all the options i need, and get the reverse telecined clip to appear somewhere i chose?

thanks for your help,
j

[Jaenet Guggenheim]

oaky, after staying up all night, trying to talk to a fcp expert who insisted compressor had no reverse telecine, i did it.

i got one lousy clip to separate into video and audio, and the video doesn’t suck, like it does with a cinema tools reverse telecine.

now what?

have i got to go through this with every clip i finally stick in my 40 minute long movie?

i would rather do it one painful clip at a time, than deal with artifacts ruining everything.

is this work flow going to be what i do for the next year?

and now what, i have video here, sound there… how do i get it back into a sequence?

thanks for all your help.

it has taken me nearly a year to get to this point with the very painful 1080i 24P.

j

[Jaenet Guggenheim]

ooops. my audio is gone. now what?

[Jeremy Garchow]

Next time, you will do this process before you edit. Since Compressor 3, it most definitely does have a reverse telecine option.

Here’s how you do a rev telecine on your footage. It is best to do it from the raw clips (meaning the clips right out of your capture scratch). What I would do if I were you is to media manage your timeline and pare down your footage so you won’t have to do a lot of rematching by eye and unnecessary transcoding:

https://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/995940

[Jaenet Guggenheim]

thanks jeremy,

i was up for 2 days struggling with this, and accidentally pulled the plug on my scratch drive. so i have to relog and transfer anyway. everything.

so…i open my hard drive with the 15 partitions of clips on it. i can see them. they say vid rate 29.97, shooting rate 24.

and somehow i get that little clip straight from the hd into compressor? HOW? drag it?

i figure i will name all the raw clips, so i can find them again for my 25 fps sequence. that’s possible, right?

so how do i get this “raw” clip into compressor?

then, because i am stupid, do i use the best hd dvd setting?

and what buttons do i click to get frame rate?

and once this thing pops out as a 23.98 (using the 23.976 fps) and i have my silent movie, how do i get it into a sequence?

thanks for your help. you are the first peson i’ve met after nearly a year of failure, who knows how to deal with this problem.

fcp help insisted, yesterday, that there was no reverse telecine in compressor. then i told her the page in the manual in which it is discussed (262). i just couldn’t find how to access it. the manual is really precise about a lot of stuff, then gets very very vague in this area.

AND, SHOULD I SWICH TO 720 24PN at this point? or will it look really different?

thanks very very much,

jaenet

[Jeremy Garchow]

Wow. Okay, one thing at a time.

[jaenet guggenheim] “i was up for 2 days struggling with this, and accidentally pulled the plug on my scratch drive. so i have to relog and transfer anyway. everything. “

This is P2 material, right? Why do you have to relog and transfer? You can just select the clips in your bin and choose batch capture, FCP should take care of the rest.

[jaenet guggenheim] “and somehow i get that little clip straight from the hd into compressor? HOW? drag it? “

Once all the transferring is done, you can take the clips out of your Final Cut Pro Documents > Capture Scratch > YourProjectName folder and drag them to Compressor, yes.

[jaenet guggenheim] “i figure i will name all the raw clips, so i can find them again for my 25 fps sequence. that’s possible, right? “

No, if you simply batch recapture, all the names should remain basically the same. Compressor will tack on a setting name if you want it to.

[jaenet guggenheim] “so how do i get this “raw” clip into compressor? “

Dragging it is fine.

[jaenet guggenheim] “then, because i am stupid, do i use the best hd dvd setting? “

I explain the settings in the other thread.

[jaenet guggenheim] “and what buttons do i click to get frame rate?
“

ALso explained in the other thread.

[jaenet guggenheim] “and once this thing pops out as a 23.98 (using the 23.976 fps) and i have my silent movie, how do i get it into a sequence? “

What do you mean by silent movie?

[jaenet guggenheim] “AND, SHOULD I SWICH TO 720 24PN at this point?”

You mean to shoot with?

Another question, why are you going through this trouble?

[Jaenet Guggenheim]

hi jeremy,

i don’t know about bins so will read.

i will follow your directions carefully. slowly.

i am making this short because i wrote it a year ago. i sent it to a pal from school who is doing well as a director and he really liked it. and i like it. and it stars two friends, one who is 70 and one who is 80. i feel time pressure because the younger one has health issues. my window of shooting is short.

i got the camera days before my first shoot, overseas. i had the dvx100 in school (finally graduated usc this spring) but the avids at school didn’t do 24p so i never used that feature. i got the dvx200 because everyone from school said i had to shoot film. and if i couldn’t do that at least i had to shoot hd.

and they said i couldn’t shoot less than 1080i, for heavens sake. but one advised me to not shoot 1080i24p advanced, and i am glad. it is jerky.

but i have a day job, i am also shooting a doc with a still camera, and wrote the text this past year, for a book about the making of an exhibit in a natural history museum. i also helped take care of my niece. i have been working non stop and didn’t have time to figure out importing issues.

i just kept shooting.

now i have 5 hds of 1080i 24p not adnvanced. i have another 5 hd to go before this project is done. (it is a very “ambitious” script).

i am concerned that the 1080i24p footage once it has gone through the compressor loses its sound. sure, a little file appeared next to the video, and that file said audio. but it was a flat line. andi it wasn’t a silently shot clip.

maybe i lost the sound by not clicking some button on the compressor. is that possible? or does it come out silent, always, and then you have to go back to your 29.97 clip and use that sound?

this is a lot of work. i was wondering if i could switch to 720 24pn and have it easier? or will there be a visible difference in the images and also in the frame rate? after all, if one is 23.98 — interlaced? not interlaced? and the other is 24p…

i can’t switch, right? or can i?

i don’t mind working hard, i just want to work smart. and i want this “film” to be the best i can possibly do. i don’t want anything to be compromised.

thank you very very much,
jeremy

[Jeremy Garchow]

[jaenet guggenheim] “i am concerned that the 1080i24p footage once it has gone through the compressor loses its sound. sure, a little file appeared next to the video, and that file said audio. but it was a flat line. andi it wasn’t a silently shot clip. “

It should not lose its audio, you simply set the audio to pass through (like I said in the other thread, please read it again, if you still don’t understand it, write back).

If you have more shooting to do, you should shoot 1080 24p Advanced and edit @ 23.98 as long as you get the pulldown removal situation resolved. When you shoot Advanced, there’s a preference in the log and transfer preferences that will remove the advanced pulldown frame upon import. Its fall down easy, much easier than removing normal 3:2 pulldown.

Jeremy