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  • Posted by Jason Levy on June 21, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    This is all very confusing. On the surface this feels like apple telling people like me (original fcp user, pro post prod facility) to go f myself. What about fcp 7? no news. Should I be thinking Avid for next year? (horrors). They just don’t give you a lot of information do they.

    jason

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  • Paul Harb

    June 21, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    That is what they are saying but without the balls to say it. Rediculous.

    Paul Harb-Producer/Director
    Wrong Beach Multimedia
    Dual 3.2 GHz Quad/10.5.5/8GIG RAM/FCP 6.0.4/QT 7.5.5

  • Christopher Bruno

    June 21, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    This crap is confusing! What is this Imovie BS. All my 3rd party filters gone. project files gone. Worthless. Apple is full of it.

    Chris

  • Andrew Karczewski

    June 21, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Hate to say it, but I agree – I’ll wait 6 months to make a final decision.

    Having said that I think the folks at blackmagic can expect Davinci sales to skyrocket…

  • Rob Grauert

    June 21, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    [jason levy] “On the surface this feels like apple telling people like me (original fcp user, pro post prod facility) to go f myself. What about fcp 7?”

    I’m really amazed how many people are acting as if this is the end of the world. Maybe it’s just me because I don’t own my own company.

    You do realize that if what you had yesterday was working, it still works today, right? Just because FCPX is available, doesn’t mean everything you’ve invested in is now trash. What is with the need to instantly update? What is so urgent?

    Plus, David Roth Weiss put out an article last week on how to prepare for this.

    Rob Grauert, Jr.
    http://www.robgrauert.com
    command-r.tumblr.com

  • Jason Levy

    June 21, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Yes fcp 7 is working today. I can attest to that as we are using the product on several TV series. But what about next year? They don’t say if they are going to keep supporting fcp 7. Why is that so hard to do? What is your relationship to fcp Rob? How much money is your commitment to FPC worth?

  • Rob Grauert

    June 21, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    [jason levy] “But what about next year?”

    But see, that’s what I don’t understand. At my current job we’re still on Final Cut Studio 2, and how old is that?

    I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make with that question. I understand all NLEs have their shortcomings, but is there something about FCP7 that’s causing you to lose money (or not make as much) and you desperately resolved right now?

    [jason levy] “They don’t say if they are going to keep supporting fcp 7.”

    Supporting it how? With more updates to the software? Beats me, but again, if what you have now is working, why do you need updates?

    [jason levy] “What is your relationship to fcp Rob? How much money is your commitment to FPC worth?”

    Not much money. Like I said, I don’t own a company. But I don’t seem to understand the point of this question either. Are you suggesting if you purchase something today, but later its successor is disappointing, you’re previous purchase was a waste or a bad investment? I would disagree with that.

    And just for the record, I’m not trying to be a jerk. I completely understand I might not ‘get’ it because I don’t own my own company. But everyone seems to be a bit hysterical today.

    Rob Grauert, Jr.
    http://www.robgrauert.com
    command-r.tumblr.com

  • Andrew Karczewski

    June 21, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    true, but i think what most people are getting at/complaining about is the fact that, this new release is;

    1) The future of what is now the officially disbanded Final Cut Studio
    2)
    Given the current state of “Pro” apps with this new release, the future of these applications isn’t too bright – And in some cases, no longer exists.
    3) Sure FCS worked yesterday, and works today – and will presumably still work in 10 years time. However now the choice seems to be stick with either Final Cut Studio or the Copyright (c) Apple 2011 iMovie suite (available for individual purchase and individual download – for your Copyright (c) Apple 2011 inconvenience)

    Of course i say that with an amount of jest. How much jest? Well, lets see how we are all feeling when Apple gets into the second act of its headlining set tonight at the Comedy Store…More than a few people seem to feel as though they might get a HBO Special out of this.

  • Timothy Auld

    June 21, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    I think that is precisely what they are telling not only you but many broadcast and post facilities (not to mention us poor independents) who have invested heavily in the FCP brand over the past decade.

    bigpine

  • Paul Nordin

    June 21, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Yes, this is a major disappointment. Sure FCP7 works, but only marginally. And that is the big problem. Many of us have been holding on by our finger tips dealing with poor support of new codecs and advanced workflows. Often that poor support has resulted in lost revenue from inefficiencies.

    When I saw the dog and pony at NAB, I had a sinking feeling in my gut due to the total lack of info on pro requirements such as XML i/o, third part support, etc.

    Many people are now saying, hey wait 6 months and Apple will surely fix all these wrongs. But its been almost 2 years that they have been working on FCPx and their development priorities have been to make sure YouTube and iPhone support is in the initial release. NOT XML, or third party support. Apply has choices they made. And they made them to benefit the iphone editors.

    Read those tea leaves any way you want, but I would say the message has already been given. If they wanted us to hear something else, they would have said it. Apple, if anything, is very very good at positioning their products with the target demographic they have aimed at.

    We are not it. I’m glad I have Adobe 5.5

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    Film * Audio
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  • Paul Jay

    June 21, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    iMovie 4K? that’s ridiculous!!! 😛

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