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David A fenton replied 14 years, 10 months ago 13 Members · 19 Replies
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Tom Daigon
June 21, 2011 at 7:53 pmYay Adobe 5.5! Im lovin the chance to use Dynamic link on a regular basis.
Tom Daigon
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Timothy Auld
June 21, 2011 at 7:57 pmYes, they will fix it all in a few months. Just like they fixed the Media Manager. And SoundtrackPro. And so many more things that there is no room to list here. Example: View>Single Frames?!
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Erik Speer
June 21, 2011 at 7:57 pmPeople keep saying if you like FCP 7 and it works just stick with it. Well that doesn’t work if you have plans to expand or just like to stay on top of software upgrades. This is a very disappointing day.
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Walter Soyka
June 21, 2011 at 7:57 pm[Rob Grauert] “But I don’t seem to understand the point of this question either. Are you suggesting if you purchase something today, but later its successor is disappointing, you’re previous purchase was a waste or a bad investment? I would disagree with that.”
Final Cut Pro has not historically been an appliance — it’s been a platform. You could expect a certain degree of continuity from one release to the next. Like, for example, the ability to open a project you created in a previous version.
FCPX reboots the franchise and removes a lot of important features. Further, FCP7 is no longer for sale. What is Jason supposed to do if he wants to add another suite to his facility? How long does he have to wait until the features he needs make it back into FCPX?
As I’ve said in other threads, I believe that FCPX is a wonderful foundation for the future of the application — but Apple is not handling the transition from FCP to FCPX well at all, and by focusing on features that many professionals do not need at the expense of features that they do, they are excluding a lot of professional workflows.
I think Jason’s response is totally reasonable. Apple is creating a lot of uncertainty by releasing FCPX in this state. Will they fix it, or will they do as they have done with other professional apps like Shake and Color?
This is not just about the money that FCP itself costs. It’s about the extra hardware that FCP used to support. It’s about production and collaboration workflows. It’s about interoperability. Anyone who owns an FCP-based facility has a lot to consider now as they try to plan for a very uncertain future.
Walter Soyka
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Rob Grauert
June 21, 2011 at 8:06 pm[Paul Nordin] “Many of us have been holding on by our finger tips dealing with poor support of new codecs and advanced workflows. Often that poor support has resulted in lost revenue from inefficiencies. “
[Walter Soyka] “Further, FCP7 is no longer for sale. What is Jason supposed to do if he wants to add another suite to his facility?”
Good points
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Peter Galassi
June 21, 2011 at 8:22 pmThe critics here are spot on – Even though Final Cut Pro 7 is still available, the total lack of support for new hardware (which Apple has gotten many to invest so heavily in) is a a hurdle that the application cannot get over without improvement. Final Cut Pro X was supposed to solve these problems and it reportedly does – like making everything 64-bit and lifting the terrible 4gb memory cap – but it comes at the expense of features that people need.
I for one have been working on several large documentaries and just cursing FCP7s hardware limitations – I was really hoping that X was going to be a great salve if not a cure. But it’s looking not so good right now.
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David A fenton
June 21, 2011 at 9:47 pmI think the problem is discontinuing FCP7…I don’t see any harm in releasing what amounts to a version 1.0 software as long as they they keep supporting the previous application until FCPX inherits the critical features.
The same way Microsoft kept the Win95/98 codebase going until the NT codebase was mature from a feature perspective.
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Jason Levy
June 21, 2011 at 10:28 pmI don’t know. It doesn’t seem unreasonable to communicate with people like me and tell us what to expect. I have supported the product , been it’s advocate, used it for years. Yes I made money with it but I also have a huge investment in it. Not only in seats. That is the least of it. Legacy projects. Ok. But all the people I have sold on using the software. I’m talking big commitments to major projects not YouTube videos. Credibility is at stake.
Will the next version of osx even be compatible with fcp 7? Who the hell knows?
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David A fenton
June 22, 2011 at 12:41 amYes..the missing features don’t affect me much (I’m in the YouTuber camp) but this looks like a very risky and unfortunate way to treat the long time FCP professional userbase.
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