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  • How to sync footage 16mm/24 FPS @ DV-PAL/25 FPS with sound??

    Posted by Pawel Gardynik on April 17, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Hello

    I desperately need to sync footage (originally shot on 16mm at 24fFPS, then transferred via telecine to DV PAL MiniDV tapes /25 FPS/ and captured as DV PAL avi; as a result it’s going to be 35mm/24 FPS film cut after EDL exported from premiere pro cs3) with sound (recorded on a set, as WAVE files with 24 FPS timecode, 48 kHz).

    The sound and the footage don’t match since the latter was accelerated to 104,17% in a process of telecine (to become regular PAL). How should I proceed in such case? I’ve learned only that programs like Final Cut Pro and Avid Media Composer have special presets that make possible to work with such footage ( “DV-PAL 24@25” & “24p”).

    Basically, is it possible at all to do so using Premiere Pro CS3?

    Thanks in advance
    Any help will be very much appreciated

    Pawel

    Pawel Gardynik replied 17 years, 1 month ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Mike Velte

    April 17, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    My instincts would be to find a point near the beginning of the video clip where you can “see” a sound, like a person beginning to speak or the bride coming down the isle (music). Put a clip marker there. Put the audio on the timeline and listen for what you saw in the video. Mark that with a clip marker.
    Align the two markers.

    Repeat this process near the end of the video. Rate stretch the audio to align the end markers.

    Jump to the middle of the video and see if things are in sync…if not, you have a project from hell!

  • Pawel Gardynik

    April 17, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Thanks for Your reply but it’s much more complex case.
    I mean – i know how to sync video footage with audio (there’s even a clapperboard). Probably the description I wrote isn’t clear enough.

    The real problem is: how to proceed with 16mm/24FPS footage transferred to DV PAL/25FPS, sync it with audio (synchronised to the original 16mm/24FPS), edit both together and, finally, get proper EDL.

    So the full path is:
    16mm/24fps >– Telecine –> MiniDV-PAL/25fps (accelerated to 104,17%) –> DV-PAL avi/25fps –> sync with original 24fps audio –> edition –> EDL –> 35mm/24fps

    I’ve been told that I can’t change audio speed because it will disturb the file timecode and that there must be a special way/option (some algorithm?) to make 25 fps footage “behave” like 24 FPS as it is supposedly in mentioned Final Cut Pro and Avid media composer.

    It wouldn’t be really a problem if I just wanted to make the audio & video match, but I need to sync them and no to change their timecodes at the same time.

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