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How much money is FInal Cut Pro X really going to cost?
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Let’s re-do the math honestly –
Shake — Was dead a long time ago, but I like to gripe about it… Replaced by NUKE.
Cost $4,500.00Since shake was NEVER a part of FCS, your mentioning it here is BS. Cost = 0
DVD Studio Pro — Replace By Encore DVD. It seems very very buggy especially for Blu-Ray.
Cost $1,899.00Since they stopped development of DVD Studio Pro 2 more than a year ago if you really needed blu-ray you already bought the software you need. Cost=0
Compressor — Might be dead? wont know until june. Replacement SQUEEZE. SQUEEZE is amazing and destroys Compressor in every way except for clustering.
Cost $899.00Color — Might be dead? wont know until june. But most likely. Replacement Davinci Resolve..
Cost $999.00Total Cost around $1200, if all the worst case scenarios play out, less if the unbundled Color and Compressor come at prices more in line with FCP.
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[Sohrab Sandhu] “If you ain’t going gaga for FCP X, you are doomed?”
Making uninformed assumptions has nothing to do with being a fan. Apple hasn’t said anything about the other apps in the studio.
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[Sohrab Sandhu] “If you ain’t going gaga for FCP X, you are doomed?”
No, but if you deal in idle speculation and fiction you can and should expect to be called on it. This is after all the FCPX Forum, not the X-Files Forum.
David Roth Weiss
Director/Editor/Colorist
David Weiss Productions, Inc.
Los Angeles
https://www.drwfilms.comPOST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™
A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing and Apple Final Cut Pro forums. Formerly host of the Apple Final Cut Basics, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.
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This is not about being a “fanboy”. I like FCp, but I’m not blind to it’s shortcomings either. This thread began with an unsubstantiated guess, pitched as if it was a certainty. If you want to make guesses, call them guesses, or predictions. If you want to make wish lists, call them that. But to claim as fact, statements that FCP-x will or won’t have this or that, is rash, unless you live in Cupertino and know something the lawyers will let you say. I see a lot of hysteria in the forums and very VERY little of is has anything substantial to justify it. You guys with the doom and gloom, you’re like 70’s era “Kremlinologists”, trying to figure out what the Soviet Politburo is thinking, by measuring the length of the lines of people standing around in Moscow buying beets. Seems like a waste of energy and a cause for needless panic-raising.
Them that know, can’t say. Them that say, don’t really know anything yet. It’s is all simply conjecture and predictions.
For every “fanboy” on this board, seems there is an equal and opposite “hater/doomsayer”… like the Star Trek Mirror Universe.
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What Craig says is right, even if they don’t particularly upgrade it anymore bar a few codecs, why wouldn’t they put compressor up on the AppStore? Its money for old rope, they copy the app over, slap up an about page, and wait for the till to ring. As much as anything else that’s a good reason to believe apple will be introducing multiple pieces of software here – they’re multiple revenue streams.
they probably won’t have worked quite as hard on the other bits, but they know everyone will buy them – as long as- they are sufficiently differentiated from the stuff we already have in FCS2. Maintaining that 32 bit float colour space in motion or something say. Apple like to make money: leaving out another two to three software revenue streams going forward is leaving piles of money on the table and that really isn’t plausible.http://www.ogallchoir.net
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[David Roth Weiss] “This is after all the FCPX Forum, not the X-Files Forum.”
I dont agree with OP’s conclusions but i wanted to ask you this.
Is the forum being moderated now?
2.66 GHz 8-core, ATI Radeon HD 4870,
FCS 3, AJA Kona Lhi“The creative person wants to be a know-it-all. He wants to know about all kinds of things: ancient history, nineteenth-century mathematics, current manufacturing techniques, flower arranging, and hog futures. Because he never knows when these ideas might come together to form a new idea. It may happen six minutes later or six months, or six years down the road. But he has faith that it will happen.” — Carl Ally
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[Craig Seeman] “Making uninformed assumptions has nothing to do with being a fan. Apple hasn’t said anything about the other apps in the studio.”
Who says i am supporting OP’s conclusions. Plz read my post again!
2.66 GHz 8-core, ATI Radeon HD 4870,
FCS 3, AJA Kona Lhi“The creative person wants to be a know-it-all. He wants to know about all kinds of things: ancient history, nineteenth-century mathematics, current manufacturing techniques, flower arranging, and hog futures. Because he never knows when these ideas might come together to form a new idea. It may happen six minutes later or six months, or six years down the road. But he has faith that it will happen.” — Carl Ally
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Sohrab, you’ve been almost hysterically negative since the preview night. I was very glad and grateful for your live blogging of the reveal, but troubled by the editorializing without a factual basis. I think you and some others are jumping to a lot of premature conclusions without facts to go on.
Nobody is moderating your speech here. You’re free to share your views. Many though, find this aggressively condemning tone objectionable and unproductive; why can’t we discuss these things in a relaxed and friendly manner instead? It’s a big pasture, plenty of grazing room for all.
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[Mark Suszko] “Nobody is moderating your speech here. You’re free to share your views. Many though, find this aggressively condemning tone objectionable and unproductive; why can’t we discuss these things in a relaxed and friendly manner instead? It’s a big pasture, plenty of grazing room for all.”
So this is how you plan to discuss things in a friendly manner?
[Mark Suszko] “Sohrab, you’ve been almost hysterically negative since the preview night. I was very glad and grateful for your live blogging of the reveal, but troubled by the editorializing without a factual basis. I think you and some others are jumping to a lot of premature conclusions without facts to go on.”
I think i have made my point!
2.66 GHz 8-core, ATI Radeon HD 4870,
FCS 3, AJA Kona Lhi“The creative person wants to be a know-it-all. He wants to know about all kinds of things: ancient history, nineteenth-century mathematics, current manufacturing techniques, flower arranging, and hog futures. Because he never knows when these ideas might come together to form a new idea. It may happen six minutes later or six months, or six years down the road. But he has faith that it will happen.” — Carl Ally
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As I recall, your point over the days since the announcement was:
(paraphrasing)
“This sucks, it’s not what I was hoping for, everything is ruined, forever, we have been abandoned by Apple for prosumer toys, dogs and cats, sleeping together… and I’m going to be going over to Avid”.
Avid is very nice, there is nothing wrong with it. Ditto for Premiere, which has had many features more advanced than FCP for some time now.
For myself, I want to wait and see what Apple has done, and what they announce they will do about the other apps, the suite, etc. I have a lot riding on this at work; we’ve made deep commitments to an FCP workflow, so yes, there is some angst about what is and isn’t going to come out in June. But at the end of the day, it’s just another tool. Maybe a better one, maybe not. We’ll find out, we’ll try it out, we’ll have a huge discussion, but it is unproductive to make rash plans to gut my suites and jump to another platform just yet. If Apple stopped all FCP work tomorrow, my shop would soldier on quite well with the current setup. We’d have to go get a few third-party apps for specific things, but we could soldier on quite well for a while until the existing suites got too old, and then, we’d have to make a decision about changing platforms.
Apple is not infallible. They’ve made mistakes before, and I’m sure, will again. But overall, they get it quite right more often than not, so mostly I am excited in anticipation of trying out new functions already announced, most of them as shown in the demo have direct utility and relevance to our shop’s main products.
Does all that make me a “fanboy”? I think labels like that are unproductive.
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