How many Billions Profit BUT no REAL PRO APP

[Bill Davis]

Perhaps NOW you can – but for most of personal computer history if you decided you wanted to buy a PC and erase the drive and install a different OS (which were pretty rare and hard to find untll relatively recently , you STILL paid for the OEM version of MS-DOS, or Windows that all manufacturers boxes came pre-loaded with.

Dell, HP, IBM, Gateway, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc – all bundled with MS OS software pre-installed. And you simply COULD NOT purchase the box without it. It was fundamental to the badge “IBM-PC compatible”

And yes, it was exactly the same with MAC. The box did NOT work without the OS.

However, unlike the Mac market – PC boxes touted the “open” nature of the consumers choice of manufacturers but in terms of OS, there was no choice offered or even possible. if you wanted an alternate OS – you STILL had to pay for the bundled OS that you were going to erase.

I remember my friends who were early LINUX junkies moaning loudly that they had to pay the SAME PRICE for their hardware with or without the MS-OS installed.

That’s a big part of why Microsoft became such a dominant force in computing. EVERY SINGLE compatible sale – regardless of manufacturer badge was an MS sale as well.

For much of that period it worked well and met the primary needs of the market – so I’m not dissing the software itself – just that it wasn’t a “choice” for most buyers. You could freely chose your hardware manufacturer – but they ALL came with MS software “baked in.”

Just the way it was.

“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner

[Mark Bein]

[Michael Belanger] ” the ipad cannot even browse flash sites. How pro is that.”

[Michael Belanger] “Case in point is the RED Camera. Talk about marketing hype over substance. “

[Michael Belanger] “mp3 as far as quality of sound is concerned is a huge compromise”

Now the trolls have taken over the forum.

[Ben Scott]

if there is a case for apple being used in enterprise then now would be that time

XP is starting to look end of life, certainly the server products surrounding it look so

my 2 cents:
cloud computing will take over for home users (if its not already)
linux is the server market of the future
https://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/the-london-stock-exchange-moves-to-novell-linux/8285
linux is the wise choice for enterprise and home in my opinion
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/7792685/Google-bans-Microsoft-Windows-on-office-computers.html
windows 7 demands hardware upgrades which many arent going to implement or will look to OS improvements/ease of use in apple.
apple is involved with mobile devices like no other company, certainly in UK, this is not a trend about to abate, android has one hell of a patent war on its hands with oracle

plus why debate enterprise, creatives use macs. if they dont at first they will eventually, its classic, I have worked at an internet firm, arts charities,photographers, newspaper and video post, all creatives in these companies prefer macs and often buy for their own home machines (even if for some its a guilty secret)

for enterprise post production, the products tend to get used and not upgraded for quite some time unless massive productivity is gained. why all this debate about FCPx not being ready for use, it is in a lot of cases, enterprise not, but would you have thought that on a complete rewrite. the modern OSX architectures written into FCPx are to me very heartening, this shows the product will have a life and that most of the moaners understand little of how IT works and just resent that they need to learn something new every five years or so

[Chris Kenny]

[TImothy Auld] “OK, my selective quote from that same article “But the iPad can’t maintain that vast a lead forever. Android will likely narrow the gap in tablet activations just as it did for smartphones before…””

Um… the argument was something like “Apple products aren’t used much by business”. Now it’s “the iPad can’t maintain that vast a lead forever”. Backpedaling much?

[TImothy Auld] “Plus, we are not talking all about the iPad. Craig’s quote was “In every case their products have creeped into professional use.”

Note the pointed use of “In every case…” That’s what I’m looking for backup on.”

Obviously it’s not literally true if you include, say, the Apple TV. But the point was clear. iPhones are also widely used by business now (do I really have to provide a citation for this?) and the Mac’s corporate market share keeps creeping up, having recently passed 10%.

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[Timothy Auld]

From what I’m reading Apple, while business sales have increased, has only 3% enterprise penetration, not 10. And not literally true? By that I assume you mean not true.

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[Michael Belanger]

Very insightful Mark… Truth is still truth … it is whether you want to accept it or not..