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How many Billions Profit BUT no REAL PRO APP
Michael Belanger replied 14 years, 11 months ago 13 Members · 36 Replies
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Bill Davis
July 21, 2011 at 11:17 pmWell, SOMETHING has to account for the fact that EVERY SINGLE reputable business publication shows Apple as currently being the second most valuable company as measured by market cap on the planet – and they’re on track to pass Exxon/Mobil as the MOST valuable if the trends continue as they are.
Interesting how they’ve come from so far back to now be worth more than Microsoft, HP and Dell COMBINED.
As to the original point, market cap may be somewhat incidental – but you can’t argue that having a company that you rely on for working tools be financially strong is a fundamental advantage.
FWIW.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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Michael Belanger
July 21, 2011 at 11:28 pmWorth more than Dell, Microsoft, HP combined… Reason is that they charge so much for their stuff.
Compare an ipod from APPLE to an mp3 player from anyone else and you see very clearly that they charge 50% higher prices. Go to Yahoo finance and see the video blurb about Apple … Margins are over 40%…up from 39%…. They are a cult and the stores are the recruitment area.. resistance is futile !!! Dude !!
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Timothy Auld
July 21, 2011 at 11:28 pmOK, my selective quote from that same article “But the iPad can’t maintain that vast a lead forever. Android will likely narrow the gap in tablet activations just as it did for smartphones before…”
Plus, we are not talking all about the iPad. Craig’s quote was “In every case their products have creeped into professional use.”
Note the pointed use of “In every case…” That’s what I’m looking for backup on.
bigpine
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Craig Seeman
July 21, 2011 at 11:41 pm[TImothy Auld] “Note the pointed use of “In every case…” That’s what I’m looking for backup on.”
iPhones, iPads, MacBookPros, all used by professionals. I do corporate work and I can’t walk into a business and not find some combination of the above in the hands of managers, executives, department heads. iPads in use by Fortune 500 that I pointed to is a good example.
It does NOT mean it’s replaced every other device. It does mean that those devices are considered professional to be employed and deployed by management.
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Michael Belanger
July 21, 2011 at 11:49 pmI , too, do alot of corporate stuff.. Big banks, telcos and the vast majority of them connect to networks where Windows 2000(believe it or not) or XP are the flavour du jour. The communications guys may use a macbook pro but the key guys log on with a windows device. Recently a CEO who did a ton of presentations had to have his web guys give him a dummy link that the iPad would be able to assemble as the real link was full of flash and as you know the “pad” is not flash friendly. Having said that.. I would not classify the pad as a pro device. Does that matter to Apple… not even one molecule. They cannot keep them in stock. Mass hysteria is what drives their sales and at some point that may wane.
IPad for a Fortune 500 that deals with people’s money.. How secure is that. U.S. is still the wild west in terms of their financial institutions. If it is not secure it is not professional but who am I to argue with a company that make 7 billion in one quarter.Pion over and out
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Bill Davis
July 21, 2011 at 11:59 pmNow I get it…
Building a business from the garage up where millions worldwide willingly pay a premium for access to your intellectual property and creative ideas and manufacturing design prowess is CRAZY.
Who would EVER want to do such an AWFUL thing.
; )
Just hold on sir, you will certainly live to see the whole crazy apple “cult” collapse if only you wait long enough…
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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Michael Belanger
July 22, 2011 at 12:22 amAHHH you have been assimilated. Yes they started in a garage but if you know the WHOLE story you will recall that Steve Jobs actually poached the pull down menu idea from Xerox . Microsoft of course was originally hired to write code for Apple but then , too, ventured off with their own pulldown menu OS for PC world.
Look , is anyone not amazed at Apple? How could you not be amazed at the amount of cash in the bank and how they have such a powerful marketing reach. What people might not be aware of .. yourself it seems…. is that the product is really not that great…. the ipad cannot even browse flash sites. How pro is that…. Now will Apple grow its top line and bottom line.. obviously… Will it do so forever. Not a chance.
Believe it or not… there are some pretty smart people out there…even smarter than Apple …. Korea for example… maybe a little place called China…. But alas I am not a fortune teller else I would have bought Apple stock at 45 bucks. But I am pretty knowledgeable about technology and marketing and Apple as a brand is more cult driven than anything else. mp3 as far as quality of sound is concerned is a huge compromise yet people still buy it…. You have to take a big step back and assess the actual product being made not the huge marketing buzz around it. Case in point is the RED Camera. Talk about marketing hype over substance.
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Bill Davis
July 22, 2011 at 1:30 amNot assimilated… just able to read.
Remember that “sincerest form of flattery thing?”
In China, pirates have now TOTALLY RIPPED OFF the Apple store. It’s actually a hoot. The pirates have made functional clone stores right down to the design, staff uniforms and the store graphics…
Here’s the story from a couple in china on the ground…
https://birdabroad.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/are-you-listening-steve-jobs/And the story notes that this is one of MORE THAN ONE rip-off Apple stores in the same small town neighborhood!
Show me ONE instance of anyone putting any effort into cloning a Microsoft store – and we’ll can re-open the discussion of how the world’s consumers have voted about a successful business model for computer retailing.
Yes, Microsoft still has an inarguably massive market shared driven by legacy practices of forcing anyone who wanted a PC to buy it with the MS-OS pre-installed. But innovation is not the same as commoditization.
The last “innovation” I can recall out of Redmond was the Surface thing. And when was the last time you saw one of those in the wild?
Case closed.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Conner
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Michael Hancock
July 22, 2011 at 2:29 am[Bill Davis] “Show me ONE instance of anyone putting any effort into cloning a Microsoft store”
There’s a Microsoft store?
[Bill Davis] “Yes, Microsoft still has an inarguably massive market shared driven by legacy practices of forcing anyone who wanted a PC to buy it with the MS-OS pre-installed.”
??? What does this mean? Are you saying I can’t buy a PC without Windows installed? Because Microsoft doesn’t make hardware, and you can buy PCs with another OS installed. That said, I can’t buy a Mac with another OS installed. You can’t even install the Mac OS on anything except a Mac (unless you break the license agreement and hack it).
I don’t understand your argument here.
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Gav Bott
July 22, 2011 at 5:15 amWhat does it matter how stable the parent company is financially when it’s the 3rd party bolt on’s that are being depended on to make it work?
How stable are those guys? You want to lean your workflow on them?
Thanks
Gav
The Brit in Brisbane
The Pomme in Production – Brisbane Australia.
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