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  • How do you use 25 FPS footage as 24 in FCP?

    Posted by Gavin Stokes on October 19, 2005 at 10:55 pm

    Hi all. Without a progressive “HD” option right now, I decided to experiment with shooting PAL HDV (50i), deinterlacing, and then using it as 24P while slowing the sound down and possibly pitch-shifting it back. This is a workflow I’ve seen recommended several times.

    I brought my HDV footage into Shake and deinterlaced and squeezed it down to anamorphic SD, outputting uncompressed 8-bit. But after bringing this into FCP, I find that I can’t change the frame rate at which it’s interpreted (25). The clip properties allow you to change the anamorphic flag, but not the frame rate.

    So what do I do from here? I want this stuff to be interpreted as 24P, and then I want do pulldown for NTSC so I can mix it with some regular interlaced 29.97 stuff. I DON’T want FCP doing any funky 25P-to-24P conversion first.

    Any help appreciated.

    Graeme Nattress replied 20 years, 6 months ago 3 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • Graeme Nattress

    October 19, 2005 at 11:29 pm

    Use the cinema tools “conform” option to conform to 23.98fps.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Gavin Stokes

    October 20, 2005 at 12:07 am

    I’ll give that a shot.

  • Neil Sadwelkar

    October 20, 2005 at 4:38 am

    Try FCPs Tools > Conform 25 to 24 menu item. Maybe that’s what you need.
    23.98 is for NTSC 29.97 material made into 24.

    Neil

  • Gavin Stokes

    October 20, 2005 at 10:02 pm

    My intent is to make a progressive DVD to test the “film look” of deinterlaced 50i footage. I set the rate at 23.98 and then put the stuff into a 29.97 FCP timeline with some regular 60i stuff. The result looked a little stroby. FCP should’ve just done 2:3 pulldown, but knowing FCP, there’s no telling what it actually did.

    I just made a 23.98 timeline, plopped the stuff in, and now I’m running it through Compressor to put on DVD. We’ll see what that looks like.

    I seem to have found a bug in FCP during the process. When placed in a 29.97 timeline, the “conformed-to-23.98” footage and its audio lined up fine (except for the drift caused by the 25-to-24 slowdown). When the same clips are placed in a 23.98 timeline, the video ends at a different point and can’t be dragged out to show the whole clip, and the audio is way out of sync.

    Gavin

  • Graeme Nattress

    October 20, 2005 at 10:40 pm

    [stokestack] ” I set the rate at 23.98 and then put the stuff into a 29.97 FCP timeline with some regular 60i stuff. The result looked a little stroby. FCP should’ve just done 2:3 pulldown, but knowing FCP, there’s no telling what it actually did”

    FCP drops and duplicates frames. It does not add 3:2 pulldown. If you want to do that, try my Standards Conversion which does that great.

    [stokestack] “I just made a 23.98 timeline, plopped the stuff in, and now I’m running it through Compressor to put on DVD. We’ll see what that looks like.”

    That should work. I’ve made many 23.98fps DVDs that way and it’s great.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

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