how do you adjust clip speed without ripple?

[Arnie Schlissel]

In the immortal words of Scottie: “Captain, ye canna change the laws of physics!”

FCP assumes that you, the editor, may have had some specific reason to decide where the in & out points are, & therefore it respects those I&O points when you speed change a clip. Yes, that makes all the clips to the right of it ripple up or down on the timeline, just like it should. If it didn’t do this, FCP would have to change either the in or out point. Personally, I think that clients are paying me to make those kinds of choices, therefore they deserve to have me make them, not a programer in Cupertino.

If you want to make speed changes w/o rippling the timeline, you can either make speed changes before you edit a clip into the timeline, or you can use “Fit to Fill” to place a clip into a specific sized hole.

PS- if you search back a week or 2 on this forum, you’ll find previous discussions on this topic.

Arnie
https://www.arniepix.com

[Michael Buday]

>>> Yes, that makes all the clips to the right of it ripple up or down on the timeline, just like it should. <<< I completely disagree, and the laws of physics have nothing to do changing the IN or OUT point of a source clip. That's like saying that you should only be able to INSERT a clip on to the TL instead of allowing the option to OVERWRITE. What it FCP DOES do and what it SHOULD do are two different things, and I agree with Bob that it SHOULD NOT by default - ripple the timeline if you change the speed of a clip within a sequence. I'm aware that you can create the speed clip prior to dropping it on the TL, but that's a pain in the butt when you're experimenting with the "look" of a slow-motion clip (for example) against music or other EFX. There are other NLE's out there that do allow you to do this, and it's a huge benefit when doing a lot of off-speed work. I don't mind having an option that would allow the ripple to occur, but I don't like it doing that by default. And by the way, Cupertino IS making decisions for you when several hundred clips go "a ripplin'" up or down the timeline. Michael Buday

[Nick Ryan]

Hear hear!

Nick

[Bob Flood]

thanx guys!

yeah,this sounds like a bit of a limitation in that many times my out point (or my inpoint) are expendable for the sake of the motion or the opposing mark

btw, my solution has been to move the clip to the next higher video track (if there is nothing else on that track) lock all the other tracks, make the speed changes, look at it, noodle it around til i like it trim the out or in and drop the clip back in.

bee eph

ps i will take a look back for the earlier thread, but when i did a search for speed i got everything but… oh well

[David Roth weiss]

Jeeze Bob, you’re already starting controversy and you’re just getting started on this forum. :} :} :}

Glad to see ya here…

DRW

[David Roth weiss]

I with you Michael. Discreet Edit did it your way and it gave the user much more control.

[Chris Poisson]

Bob,

This locking and moving the clip up method is how I’ve always done it.

Have a wonderful day.

[Bob Flood]

thanx DRW!

yeah im just a rabble rouser at heart! luv to mix things up! kinda like johns (or pauls) uncle in “a hard days night”

its a bit of a curve from edit to here. the truevison gave us about 10 choices of com[pression, all AVI,
now i have 1000!

however, to apples credit, i got the basics down pretty fast.

and somebody said in response to an earlier post about raids, “and above all else, have fun!” that works for me!

until my boss springs for an FCP guru to come by, i may pick yer brain from time to time over “edit withdrawal” stuff. (if thats ok with you, i wouldn want to pick your brain uninvited!)

thanx again

[David Bogie]

Welcome to the family, Bob. There are lots of things FCP’s designers have presumptuously assumed you know nothing about so they solved these issues for you in truly weird ways. AutoSelect, transition trimming and replacing media or copying and pasting keyframes are going to make you run screaming for your old platform. Media Manager will make you throw up your hands in disgust.

A quick search of these forums will probably reveal hundreds of posts on all of the topics you will bonk your head against. We deal on a daily basis with the (sometimes stupid, lame or ignorant) mistakes FCP’s designers made.

bogiesan

This is my standard sigfile so do not take it personally: “For crying out loud, read the freakin’ manual.”

[David Roth weiss]

[Bob Flood] “i wouldn want to pick your brain uninvited”

Bob,

Pick away… Now that a few of us have migrated (I’m seeing The March of the Penquins in my minds eye) you have me, Les, Bob Cole, Monica, Rick and other Edit* users to lean on. But, the others on this forum are really helpful, especially those who have backgrounds that go beyond FCP. And then there is this fellow named Matte, who has memorized evey FCP command, every page of the user manual, and every word on Ken Stone’s website. Expect Matte to answer about 93% of your questions.

Happy holidays,
DRW