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  • Horizontal Lines (Not Field issue?)

    Posted by John Ford on May 14, 2010 at 1:28 am

    I have annoying horizontal lines across light areas of clips when they fade out to black…

    Its really pissing me off.. I found a post and solution here that was close and seemed to help the person who posted the problem, but mine is slightly different.

    here is the link of the post i read:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1062242

    Anyway, he had the problem getting it to DVD, I have the problem exporting it from FCP..

    On my timeline, the lines are very small and only noticeable in 100% in the canvas…

    When i export the lines get much more intense and noticeable…

    I have tried LOAD of export settings.. I am new to this game, but i got the editing thing down, but its the quality information i am lacking..

    The only way i can get it looking any better, is to export s Animation (millions of colors +) it produces alomst a 6gb file and then i use Compressor to get it down…

    ANyway, its pissing me off alot..

    I have posted a few things here with almost no responses.

    Please help me out

    Thanx

    Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 24 Replies
  • 24 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 14, 2010 at 2:37 am

    Way more information is needed about your sequence settings and footage. My guess is that you are editing in an interlaced timeline or using interlaced footage.

  • John Ford

    May 14, 2010 at 10:26 am

    Yes ,

    The footage is interlaced..

    What info would you need to know about my sequence?

    Let me know and i will post it..

    cheerz mate

    j

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 14, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    [John Ford] “The footage is interlaced.. “

    Then what you are seeing is absolutely normal.

  • John Ford

    May 16, 2010 at 6:21 am

    Hey..

    Ok, I fixed the things with the lines, Its was interlaced sequence settings..

    Here’s the deal…

    I really wanna learn about how to set up the sequence/settings for my projects..

    I am editing the footage from out band’s show so i just get given the footage from the camera men who film us. Because we perform in different countries every time, its hard to keep the same format, We tell them, but they do what they want most of the time..

    This show was filmed with many different cameras and formats, The MAIN camera used was a SONY Z7 and i have an AVI file of it.

    Now the only way I know how to see the info of the file is to import it and push Command+9 and read the info..Here is what it says:

    Vid Rate: 29.97 FPS
    Frame size: 720×480
    Compressor: DV/DVCPRO NTSC
    Data rate: 3.6 MB/sec
    Pixel Aspect: NTSC CCIR 601
    Anamorphic: (Ticked)
    Field Dominance: Lower (even)
    Alpha: None/ignore
    Composite: Normal

    To be honest, i don’t really know the significance of most of that info nor the way it can make or break a project.. I am doing things by eye, and i like it that way, but quality is being lost in my export which means my sequence setting or setting for this project are wrong..

    I would really like for someone to explain to me how to set up a project for this camera and its info..

    I have other shot from other cameras that i will include in this project, If they require different sequence setting to get the best results would i need to create projects for all cameras and export into one format to work with …

    Anyway, That’s enough info for you to deal with already..

    Cheerz in advance for the patience and help…

    j

  • John Ford

    May 16, 2010 at 6:51 am

    PS another thing..

    I set the setting (command+0) to the exact settings as the clips info.. now the image fills the canvas perfectly.. BUT, when i try to export the video is no longer in the shape it was ORIGINALLY or in the CANVAS… Its becomes more square, left and right squashed together..

    I tried all difference export settings , Preserve A.R, and sizes… but all come out the same..

    Also i notice in the canvas, where you select the % of the size your viewing, the CORRECT FOR ASPECT RATIO is ticked.. When i un-tick it , i see the image the same as the export.. All squashed together..

    I have a few versions of this project where i have distorted the aspect ratio in them motions tab, i did it by eye… BUT the video has lost quality…

    Hair falling out..

    J

  • John Ford

    May 16, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    I have adjusted my sequence settings now to my video..

    It exports the correct size now..

    Without applying ANY De-interlacing filters, I get a clear image with lines only in fast movements..

    When i apply the De-interlace filter. The lives go, but the video becomes EXTREMELY PIXELATED.

    I saw this and understood what i meant, but now how i can get around this:

    https://www.hqv.com/index.cfm?page=tech.de-interlacing

    Guys…What do i do?

    John

  • John Ford

    May 17, 2010 at 3:28 am

    STILL desperately wait for some help with this…

    Can anyone help me with it?

    J

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 17, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    John you are way way way ahead of yourself.

    Keep the original sequence settings that you posted. SD video from tape is non square pixel (so it will look squished upon export). When you go make your final file for the web, you will change to a square pixel ratio and de-interlace then. If going to DVD/tape, the 0.9 aspect ratio will remain (non square). For now, just edit interlaced and non square in FCP.

    It’s the way digital video works.

    Jeremy

  • John Ford

    May 18, 2010 at 12:33 pm

    Ok…

    So when i export i change the pixel ratio to square then export?

    I uploaded a few version in the start for this and did not come out well.

    I get what your saying but i am exporting my final for the web strait from FCP. I am not doing anything to it after.

    do you think that will get rid of the pixels?

    Cheerz J

  • John Ford

    May 18, 2010 at 12:36 pm

    Its on a computer screen.

    I know that fcp needs a video monitor, but that should not matter with this, as i will be online and everyone will see using computers.

    Also, These pixels are there when i upload so its not the way i am seeing it in FCP or even my export. They are really there…

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