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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Horizontal Lines (Not Field issue?)

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 18, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    No, don’t change to square.

    Let’s back up a second. What format do you need to upload and what are people on the other end doing with it?

    When you export, what format are you exporting to now and how do you do it?

  • John Ford

    May 18, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    hehe, Cheerz for the patience man..

    Ok…

    For the moment, it will be on our website, and youtube..

    I am exporting H.264 (i dont like the faded colors).

    FILE>EXPORT>QT CON>

    H.264 (high)
    The size i have tried different setting but i am exporting 854×480
    Preserve A.R (Crop)
    DE INTERLACE TICKED

    Thats it..

    BUT i see the pixels in the canvas before export also..

    Ok man,

    Cheerz J

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 18, 2010 at 1:53 pm

    Use compressor.

    File > Export > Quicktime Movie

    leave make self contained and decompress all frames UNchecked.

    Drag that movie in to comprssor and make the h264. Turn on frame contols and make the output fields progressive. Change the frame size in geometry tab to the 16×9 ratio you mentioned an square pixels.

    Jeremy

  • John Ford

    May 18, 2010 at 2:38 pm

    Let me give it a go !

    Back soon

  • John Ford

    May 19, 2010 at 7:21 am

    Ok, I gave it a go..

    No luck, Infact its just degraded the image so much its starting to make me laugh, I cant wait to full understand this…Its annoying but some part of me like the learning curve..

    Ok, Just so we are all on teh same page again, Here is the info, And the problem AND i have uploaded Snapshots of the problem…

    Tell me what you think of this:

    VIDEO:

    SONY Z7

    Vid Rate: 29.97 FPS
    Frame size: 720×480
    Compressor: DV/DVCPRO NTSC
    Data rate: 3.6 MB/sec
    Pixel Aspect: NTSC CCIR 601
    Anamorphic: (Ticked)
    Field Dominance: Lower (even)
    Alpha: None/ignore
    Composite: Normal

    (When i open this video with Quicktime player and push Command+I , It says size ” 853×720 ” Just to let you know.)

    SEQUENCE SETTINGS:

    Frame Size: 720×480 | NTSC DV (3:2)
    Pixel Aspect Ratio: NTSC – CCIR 601 / DV 720×480 ( Anamorphic NOT ticketed) (When ticked the image becomes too stretched)
    Field Dominance: Lower Even
    Editing timebase: 29.97
    Qucktime Video Settings: Compressor – DV/DVCPRO – NTSC | Quality 100%
    Audio : as normal

    FINAL CUT:

    EASY SETUP:
    Format – (all formats) | Rates: (all rates)
    Use: Custom setup

    AUDIO / VIDEO SETTINGS:

    Sequence Preset: DV NTSC 48khz – 23.98
    Capture Preset: DV NTSC 48khz Advanced (2:3:3:2) Pulldown Removal
    Divice Control Preset: Firewire NTSC
    Video Playback: (Missing) Apple FIrewire NTSC (720×480)
    Audio: Default

    PROBLEM:

    RAW VIDEO PLAYED IN Q.T or VLC LOOK GOOS BUT WITH INTERLACING BLUR ( fast movement makes ghost like trailing)

    AFTER EXPORT IN FINAL CUT WITH NO DE INTERLACING, THE GHOSTING TRAIL NOW BECOMES HORIZONTAL LINES

    APPLYING DE-INTERLACING FILTER ELIMINATES LINES BUT IMAGE BECOMES PIXELATED AND ALL SMOOTH EDGES NOW ARE BLOCKY.

    TRIED:

    • EXPORTING IN DIFFERENT SIZES and FORMATS
    • DE INTERLACING IN FCP ( ODD & EVEN)
    • EXPORT SELF CONTAINED MOVIE (Re-compress frames UN-Ticked) AND IMPORT TO COMPRESSOR, FRAME CONTROLS ON & OUTPUT FIELDS PROGRESSIVE, FRAME GEOMETRY : 16:9 OUTPUT

    BELOW ARE THE TYPES OF CLIPS RESULTS:

    ORIGINAL (NO MOVEMENT):

    ORIGINAL (TRAILING IN FAST MOVEMENT):

    COMPRESSOR( LEFT is Original images with no De-Interlacing Filter, RIGHT is with De Interlace from Compressor):

    I am not sure if these images here will be clear enough to see the problems. If not i will be happy to e-mail them if anyone can help me solve this.

    Thank you again for your patience and help with this..

    I really dont want to compromise on these clips.

    Thank you

    John

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 19, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    I am so confused.

    Isn’t this an HDV camera?

    If so, why DV?

    853×720 makes no sense at all.

    Why are you using the 23.98 advanced pulldown removal setting?

    Why are your clips AVIs?

    You have a mish mash of different things here that when put together, it equals straight up confusion.

    Let’s start over.

    What is the native format of the camera originals and do you have access to the original media?

  • John Ford

    May 19, 2010 at 5:06 pm

    You know, I flipping knew it..

    I told my camera guy to give me the native format it was recorded in, and he gave me these avi’s. I aked him ” WILL THIS BE THE SAME? ” and he assured me that it was going to be.. I should have trusted my gut..

    I will try and find the guy and ask him whats going on..

    I did not mean 853×720, i meant to type 854×480…sorry if i did that..

    But what should the native format of the sonyz7 be? because he is probably gonna try and bullshit me.

    I hate when people do this stuff to the unknowing…

    The pulldown thing, i dont know why its set, its been since i got final cut a few months back, Like i said before i am new to VIDEO editing..

    Should it be HDV?…

    Please tell me what settings it should be at…I will try and find the guy..

    Thanx

    John

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 19, 2010 at 5:12 pm

    I googled Sony Z7 and it looks like it’s an HDV camera of some sort.

    I don’t know if this is it or not:

    https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-broadcastcameras/cat-hdv/product-HVRZ7U/

    It looks like it’s tapeless, so it can probably record SD or HD.

    You have to find out and get the camera original file. Then we start over.

    AVIs don’t work in FCP very well at all.

  • John Ford

    May 19, 2010 at 6:05 pm

    Ok,

    He recorded to TAPE on the SONYZ7.. He says its HDV native format..

    He captured/recorded in from the camera into his PC with Premiere, and then gave me an AVI file..

    I dont know, I am really pissed now..

    Since the file is not what it should be, i dont know what settings to set.

    Anyway.. About the Pullldown thing, what sound all that stuff me set too?

    Going on what the footage should be… ?

    Thanx

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 19, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    I’d stop right now, get his HDV tape and capture it as an HDV or ProRes Quicktime.

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