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Help…stuck in Insert/Ripple delete Mode
Posted by Dan Herz on May 28, 2008 at 9:58 pmI am editing a project in FCP ver 6.0.3. I am experiencing a problem. When I delete a clip using the delete button on the keyboard, all/some of the clips behind it (towards the end) come forward taking up the space of the deleted clip (a workaround I found is using the “lift” command)
Also…when I lower the speed of a clip it and the clip becomes longer, it also shoves all other clips behind it “down stream”.
I have gone through all of the preferences and settings that I can find, but I can’t figure this out. Any help would be appreciated.
ThanksKevin Monahan replied 17 years, 11 months ago 8 Members · 16 Replies -
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Daniel Arts
May 28, 2008 at 11:29 pmHi Dan,
Use the Backspace key instead of the Delete key. This should lift the clip for you.
Hope this helps.
Daniel
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Andrew Kimery
May 29, 2008 at 1:43 amFCP will always shift media up/down the timeline when you do a speed change. Most people setup another sequence, do the speed change there then copy & paste the clip into their work timeline.
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Ron Craig
May 29, 2008 at 3:12 amAfter having had an unfortunate experience when learning how FCP shifts the timeline downstream from the target clip on a speed change, I decided to start copying the target clip and pasting at the end of my sequence before changing the speed. That should work as well as starting up another sequence to do that job, shouldn’t it? (I’m not in my studio to test this out…)
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Baz Leffler
May 29, 2008 at 8:58 amFCP has an incessant desire to keep shifting the timeline when you do most things and if you are not careful it can totally screw you up if you are not forever vigilent.
I am doing an on line edit of a series that is already rough cut and it is a real pain the way clips just move without wanting them to.
It seems a few advisers to Apple have their way and more users want it another. Adobe premiere has this right but its about all it has – all the rest goes to FCP….
What would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!
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Kevin Monahan
May 29, 2008 at 5:01 pmFCP has an incessant desire to keep shifting the timeline when you do most things and if you are not careful it can totally screw you up if you are not forever vigilent.
The Timeline must shift if you insert clips into it. That’s a basic tenet of editing.
I am doing an on line edit of a series that is already rough cut and it is a real pain the way clips just move without wanting them to.
If you don’t want your clips to “shift”, then don’t add clips to the timeline. If you need to replace a clip, ensure that it is the same duration.
It seems a few advisers to Apple have their way and more users want it another. Adobe premiere has this right but its about all it has – all the rest goes to FCP….
What in the world are you talking about? Advisors to Apple? Apple is Apple. Ain’t no one telling them how to run their business.
Kevin Monahan
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Baz Leffler
May 30, 2008 at 2:12 am[Kevin Monahan] “What in the world are you talking about? Advisors to Apple? Apple is Apple. Ain’t no one telling them how to run their business.”
So you are saying that Apple do not have beta testers?
Are Apple so clever they know all about video editing requirements?
Is it that some of us ‘seasoned’ editors know jack about what video editing is? Man you DO have your head in a bag![Kevin Monahan] “The Timeline must shift if you insert clips into it. That’s a basic tenet of editing.”
REALLY? Where did you learn that from? Have I missed something in my 35+ years of editing? Maybe you mispronounced the sentence or something – can you clarify?
[Kevin Monahan] “If you don’t want your clips to “shift”, then don’t add clips to the timeline. If you need to replace a clip, ensure that it is the same duration.”
Maybe I should get you to do my editing as I don’t know any other way of adding clips to a timeline without ummm… ‘adding’ them?
So Kevin, are you an editor and if so have you ever done ‘on line conform’? In recent years so called ‘producers’ layout a roughcut on a timeline like a storyboard and then call it an ‘off line’. Then us poor conform editors have to turn a pigs ear into a purse… and we have to do that by cleaning up the mess they left us with. What we want to retain is the general flow dictated to us by the producers; not have FCP go ‘my way or the highway’.
As I said earlier as BAD as Adobe Premiere is, it certainly doesn’t go shifting your timeline clips around unnecessarily. And I gotta say I was TOTALLY SHOCKED when FCP moved ALL the ‘after’ clips when I change the speed of a single clip! Sure there are people here who say its a good thing but they must be editing on the planet Mars. I would say I need that functionality once in a thousand speed changes and thats being conservative. Why not have it as an option or something. All in all I give FCP 40/100 for functionality and 98/100 for stability as compared to AP’s 75/100 for functionality and 12/100 for stability.
Where am I going with this? Well these software engineers that write this stuff have either gotta start using it as a ‘real world’ user or get a better range of beta testers and advisors; yep, there’s that word again. I could go on but I don’t tend to argue too much with people who have tunnel vision.Baz
LEFFLER POSTWhat would I do without the ‘UNDO’ button!!!!
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David Roth weiss
May 30, 2008 at 2:42 amBaz,
“Insert edits” ripple the timeline. “Overwrite edits” and “Replace edits” don’t. What else is there?
BTW, I completely agree with you that speed changes should not, by default, ripple the timeline. Those who are used to it will in fact argue in favor of rippling the timeline til the Cows come home. At best, I think it should be a selectable feature that can simply be toggled on/off by the user. Discreet edit had that toggleable feature eight years ago. Of course Dsicreet Edit was “End of Lifed” seven years ago…
David
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Dan Herz
May 30, 2008 at 4:15 pmThanks for the information. As a somewhat new FCP editor, I assumed that there was a way to turn this feature on and off…very dissapointing. Apple really should consider changing this. The backspace button for a “lift” delete is very helpfull too.
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Misha Aranyshev
May 30, 2008 at 7:06 pm[David Roth Weiss] “Those who are used to it will in fact argue in favor of rippling the timeline til the Cows come home.”
I won’t waste time arguing. I know how to change clip speed in FCP with and without rippling. It doesn’t involve copying. The tip is posted here regularly:
x, f, Command-j, percentage, F10
[Baz Leffler] “Have I missed something in my 35+ years of editing?”
A few useful FCP technics, obviously
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Dan Herz
May 30, 2008 at 7:10 pmMichael, I am not interested in arguing either, just in knowing how to change clip speed without moving the rest of my sequence. If you know how to do this without copying, I would really appreciate the information. I searched the forum and was not able to find the tip…so any help would be greatly appreciated.
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