help to oust Vibrating squiggly lines

[Dan Lacloche]

I usually output as animation compression and let DVD studio compress that, cutting out the dv ntsc step

[Oleh Fedak]

Thank You,
I’ll give it a shot

[Todd Morgan]

For starters, how did you render the fields? And then next are you rendering to a DVD format mpeg2 file from AE?

Todd Morgan
Creative Director
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[Oleh Fedak]

Thanks Todd,
it’s a quicktime movie, lower first field render out of ae which is then dropped in as an asset in dvd studio pro. The vibration/moire pattern is most visible in the 5 lines that make up the musical staffs as the 3d cam travels along the notes(everything is an illustrator file continuously rasterized). I’m wondering if the vibration has been there all along, since the lines that make up the musical measures are so thin and spaced relatively close together and I’m making adjustments biased to the progressive scan of the computer display. Any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED as I’m down to 1 day to master.
Many Thanks

[Oleh Fedak]

tried animation render; direct drop into dvd studio pro as an asset with slightly better results, but significant vibration/moire of the 5 thin lines that make up the musical staffs remains(illustrator file – continuously rasterized).
Thank You – deadline to master 1 day away

[Jason Jenkins]

Your problem is that NTSC video does not handle very thin, moving lines well. Add a bit of blur to the image. Reducing the contrast a bit can help as well.

[Aharon Rabinowitz]

If those lines are 1 pixel thick, and you are working with fields, you will see a problem like those – so another solution is to thicken the offending lines (Stroke) a bit, in illustrator.

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[Todd Morgan]

You could also look at using Reduce Interlace Flicker and set it at .5…

Todd Morgan
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[Oleh Fedak]

Thanks Again Todd,
Looks like a combination of interlace flicker, motion blur and thanks to Aharon, going back and changing the pixel size/stroke of the musical measures makes it very acceptable, although I take a very big rendering hit by adding motion blur – we do what we must.
Thanks for all your help,
sincerely,
-oleh

[Oleh Fedak]

Thank You Aharon,
The 1 pixel size musical measures look great with a progressive eye and up close, but resonate and vibrate like plucked guitar strings through the ae 3d cam flyby eye. I ‘upped’ the stroke of the musical measures and added some, reduce interlace flicker and motion blur and it looks very acceptable. As I’m doing a series of these music sheet flyby opens with the letters of the names of the musicians affixed to the musical notes(all separate illustrator layers)- I’m asking if there’s a cleaner/sharper way to do this? I can’t get the same sharp, continuously rasterized look with the ae 3d cam moving across an exceptionally oversized tiff image.
Thank You Once Again for all your help,
-oleh