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  • Help from any ex AVID editors? Any way to view a SEQ in the SOURCE monitor

  • Michael Buday

    November 2, 2005 at 10:49 am

    OK,

    When I’m editing on my AVID, I can quickly view a sequence that’s in my SOURCE window in the timeline (because I’m cutting from one sequence into another) with the click of one button. This way you can quickly see all the edits in the SOURCE sequence and then revert back to the sequence in the MASTER viewer, simply by toggling this function back and forth.

    However . .

    With FCP I can load a SEQ into my SOURCE viewer, but I can’t view it as a sequence (at least I think I can’t) unless I load it into the TL, which then UNLOADS it from the SOURCE viewer!! Arghh!

    I would hope that with major motion pictures now cutting on FCP, this functionality would be working, right???

    Can I do what I want to do?

    Many thanks.

  • David Chai

    November 2, 2005 at 11:18 am

    you can have multiple timelines open at the same time, just pull the tab out of the Sequence viewer to have two side by side. There is no direct view source as you describe, but I don’t belive you need it, as you can easily select the section you want to copy in FCP by dragging a selection box or marking in and out and then command + C (copy) and then shift + V (paste) into the record sequence to insert paste the section you want there. With both sequences open, you are free to view both together… makes view source timeline a little redundant.

    David 😀

  • walter biscardi

    November 2, 2005 at 11:20 am

    [David Chai] “you can have multiple timelines open at the same time, just pull the tab out of the Sequence viewer to have two side by side.”

    Yep, what he said. Depending on how many timelines you have open (I’ve had up to 6 at a time) you may need to toggle the Canvas tabs to see the video of timeline you’re working on.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Nick Price

    November 2, 2005 at 2:05 pm

    …of course you can also have several canvas windows open at once, again just pull the tab and you can see two seperate canvas windows

    nick

  • Bret Williams

    November 2, 2005 at 3:34 pm

    I know what you’re describing and unfortunately there isn’t an exact duplicate of that funciton in FCP. On avid I always thought that was a neat function but hardly ever had a need for it. I understand the possible need for it. With possibly juggling tracks or only editing in specific tracks et al, it’s a nice feature.

    FCP does allow multiple sequences open at once which in the end is probably a much more powerful feature overall, but it doesn’t replace what you’re looking for. But you can mark in/out in a seqeunce, choose option+a to select from the chosen autoselect tracks within that region, and then paste or insert paste into the other timeline. The result is 99% the same. Autoselect tracks on the other timeline will decide where your paste goes.

  • Michael Buday

    November 2, 2005 at 4:28 pm

    Thank you everyone for all your answers. Bret, your answer best suits my needs ’cause I sometimes do need to repatch tracks during this process, and the auto-select behaviour you described is just the ticket I’m looking for.

    Again, thanks all for your help.

    All the best,

    Michael Buday

  • Bret Williams

    November 2, 2005 at 4:55 pm

    Well it kinda works. Pasting goes to the same tracks unless you change the auto selects. But you could of course make your marks in the timeline, then move the sequence to the viewer and do more advanced patching. It’s a stretch. But for me this kinda thing is on the super low end of features in any nle that is neccessary. When I learned it on Avid I was like… what the hell is this for? But when I learned that Avid is pretty anti-copy and paste, I discovered they had to invent all this bizzare functionality and workarounds to do simple things like copy and paste.

    I have a theory about Avid editing. It takes so many dang clicks and button presses to do a basic function (like picking up a clip and moving it for example) that people think Avid editors are so “fast.” It all seems so cool, all those presses and marking and lifting and trimming, etc. It just doesn’t wow the client as much when I use the mouse to click and move. 🙂

  • Les Kaye

    November 3, 2005 at 4:45 am

    With a sequence loaded in the Viewer, you can also hold CTL key while doing an insert edit and your original sequence cuts will be in the new sequence. NOTE: I have better luck with this using the mouse rather than the keyboard.

  • Martin Baker

    November 3, 2005 at 8:28 am

    You have to hold down the Command key to take the original cuts across from sequence to sequence. Here’s a tip – what I’ve done is remap my F9 and F10 keys to be the “Insert/Overwrite sequence content” commands, so I don’t have to hold down the Cmd key. The cool thing with doing this is that when you have a regular source clips in the viewer they behave exactly as they would in normal insert/overwrite modes.

    Michael, wait until you want to repatch specific tracks between sequences whilst being able to view both timelines 😉 It can’t be done. What I’d like to see Apple do is to go one better than Avid and allow a split-view timeline. Imagine if the track patching area moved to the centre of the window and a new source timeline area was revealed to the left…

    Martin
    Digital Heaven, London UK
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  • Les Kaye

    November 3, 2005 at 8:58 am

    [Martin Baker] “You have to hold down the Command key to take the original cuts across from sequence to sequence”

    Thanks for clarifying – it’s what I meant, but was too windozed out to say correctly – even though I use it all the time (g). Also thanks for the nice tip on changing F9&10 to use sequence contents.

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