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  • Help, can’t find a card to work for external grading monitor?

    Posted by Nigel Cooper on October 12, 2006 at 11:00 am

    Help, can’t find a card to work for external grading monitor?

    Okay guys, please note I’m in England, UK which means PAL.

    Have latest Mac Pro system with latest FCP suite.

    Footage shot on JVC GY-HD111E in 720p/25p mode. FCP supports this and I’ve imported footage.

    However, I can’t figure out how I can feed the FCP timeline to my external SD 15 inch JVC monitor for grading.

    I bought a Blackmagic Decklink HD Extreme card, but it does not output 720p/25p to external monitor; they don’t support it and won’t be either.

    Can anyone advise me how I can get a feed out of Mac Pro to my external SD monitor for grading purposes?

    I’m working in native HDV 720p/25p FCP timeline so whatever the solution it will have to be able to down-convert this signal to Standard Def as it is a Standard Def monitor.

    Nigel Cooper replied 19 years, 7 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    October 12, 2006 at 11:09 am

    AJA Kona series. 720/25 very nicely as we shot about half of our independent film in 720/25 and the Kona handled it just fine. I’m not sure if there’s an actual preset for it, or you simply modify the 720/24 Capture Preset to 25, it’s been about a year since we cut that film.

    Currently we’re posting an international series which was shot in 1080i/50 (really 25fps) on both a Kona 2 and Kona 3 and they are working brilliantly.

    AJA Cards are pretty much anything in, anything out.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Nigel Cooper

    October 12, 2006 at 2:07 pm

    Walter, thanks for that, but I must clarify something.

    I’m not actually using a card for capturing or outputting, this I’m doing via FireWire, I simply need the card, or other device, to get an output to my CRT grading monitor. Will Kona definately do this, or is their a cheaper option as with Kona card I’ll be paying for a bunch of features I won’t be using.

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 12, 2006 at 2:09 pm

    [iManvideo] “I’m not actually using a card for capturing or outputting, this I’m doing via FireWire, I simply need the card, or other device, to get an output to my CRT grading monitor. Will Kona definately do this, or is their a cheaper option as with Kona card I’ll be paying for a bunch of features I won’t be using.”

    well if you’re feedign out via Firewire, why aren’t you feeding from your Firewire source to the monitor?

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Zak Mussig

    October 12, 2006 at 2:27 pm

    Walter,
    FCP can’t display HDV externally. It’s a concession they made to allow for real-time editing of the long-GOP format.

    iMan,
    Go with the Kona. It will allow you to output your HDV footage to a monitor (I believe it even offers hardware acceleration for HDV). Even though you’ve captured natively over firewire this time, a Kona will give you other workflow options such as capturing to DVCPro HD. Beyond being an i-frame codec, DVCPro HD has a 4:2:2 color space.

    Hope that helps,
    Zak

  • Shane Ross

    October 12, 2006 at 2:52 pm

    Also take a look at the Matrox MXO. $999 and it can send a signal out to a monitor for color grading. But it is export only, it cannot capture footage. The AJA is a good choice for you can capture and output.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Nigel Cooper

    October 12, 2006 at 11:05 pm

    Shane, that MXO looked ideal, but is no good. From the Matrox site it states that it only outputs to an Apple DVI display, I need to output to a professional JVC CRT Grading production monitor.

  • Nigel Cooper

    October 12, 2006 at 11:09 pm

    Also there is Zero/No support for UK PAL 720p/25P, the latter has been my problem all along. I’m in the UK remember.

  • Nick Price

    October 13, 2006 at 12:49 pm

    I would look at the lowest of the blackmagic cards…i think it is the decklink SP. Its around

  • Nigel Cooper

    October 13, 2006 at 2:49 pm

    Nope, Blackmagic don’t make ANY product that supports 720p/25p. Neither do AJA.

  • Uli Plank

    October 13, 2006 at 3:43 pm

    The Matrox is using the input from DVI and can loop through to DVI again, but it’s also doing HSDI and SDI plus analog component in HD and SD, so it should be able to feed any monitor out there. I don’t know if it supports 720p25, since we don’t own a JVC. I’d ask Matrox.

    Regards,

    Uli

    Author of “DVDs gestalten und produzieren”, a book on professional DVD-authoring in German.

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