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  • HDV pro deck or little camera?

    Posted by Ming Saadprai on January 18, 2006 at 12:35 am

    Is there a diffence is capturing footage from a professional Sony HVR-M10 HDV VTR and from the little Sony HDV camera? They both seem to just use the iLink function.

    Mark Maness replied 20 years, 4 months ago 10 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    January 18, 2006 at 12:49 am

    Deck is better. The transport mechanism is designed for the constant playing, fast forwarding and rewinding that capturing requires. Capture enough from your camera, and you’ll wear it out…much faster than a deck would wear out. The camera is designed pretty much for recording.

    Shane Ross
    Alokut Productions
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Steve Wargo

    January 18, 2006 at 2:05 am

    Take Shane’s advice. Only a fool would use a camera as a tape deck. Also, the levels are usually enhanced on camera output.

    Steve Wargo
    Tempe, Arizona

    It’s a dry heat!

  • Graeme Nattress

    January 18, 2006 at 2:37 am

    This is not the case for the HDV deck though – it’s a camera without a lens, that’s more expensive than the camera, and just as slow a transport.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Ming Saadprai

    January 18, 2006 at 4:42 am

    I see what you’re getting at, but the cost of buying a little camera to use as a deck far outweighs buying a deck as a deck. Do you guys think there’s any difference in quality in capturing from a camera as compared to the deck?

  • Graeme Nattress

    January 18, 2006 at 4:59 am

    Zero quality difference.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Christopher Wright

    January 18, 2006 at 5:39 am

    I have used the HC-HR1 cheap Sony HDV camera for both capturing and time-coded dubs for clients for several months now. As Graeme says, there is no difference in quality, and the tape transports are the same in both units. I am actually using the component cable out for full uncompressed 1080i HD capture through an AJA LH card, and skipping the firewire/HDV conundrum altogether. The small cheap camera is the way to go! Save your money for a real HD camera!!

  • Christopher Wright

    January 18, 2006 at 5:41 am

    I mean the HDR-HC1 of course!!

  • Frank Nolan

    January 18, 2006 at 5:56 am

    [Christopher Wright] “I am actually using the component cable out for full uncompressed 1080i HD capture through an AJA LH card, and skipping the firewire/HDV conundrum altogether”

    I hate to burst your bubble here but if you’ve captured the footage to tape in the HDV camera, then you have already applied mpeg 2 compression. Going out the component cable from the camera now is not capturing full uncompressed HD into your NLE system. It is still compressed HDV footage now taking up a lot more hard drive space then it needs to. However if you captured straight from the component out of the camera to your NLE system while shooting, then forget about what I just said, you will indeed have uncompressed footage.

  • Paul Harb

    January 18, 2006 at 6:04 am

    I concur, those Sony HDV decks suck,very laggy…even look and feel cheap… buy the camera…….

  • Dave Sullivan

    January 18, 2006 at 1:27 pm

    I agree…..the cheaper option would be to buy a second camera, which not only gives you a back-up HDV camera, but also ensures you don’t wear out you main HDV camera.
    With regard to quality, it depends which camera you go for as a substitute for a HDV deck.
    As we all know the output from a Sony is different to the output from a Canon, or a JVC…..it all boils down to budget.
    In an ideal World I would opt for a Sony HDV deck, but they are still far too expensive.

    Dave

    Good Robot Productions UK

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