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HDV 24p support on FCP. Is horrible!!!!!
So FCP finally offers HDV 24p support, but it is truly a pain. I have only worked with HDV on one other project (we used a workaround to get 24p our 24p footage into FCP) which was a very small project, more of a test drive than anything. It was cumbersome, but I was hoping that FCP’s recent update and support for 24p would take away my troubles. Unfortunatley that is not the case. I have just stared a new project that was shot in 24p HDV and there is nearly 10 hours of footage to log and capture. I have been capturing through HDV firewire. So far it has been a nightmare. The compression of the footage when you forward or rewind at more than real time speed is nearly impossible to view (no cycling ahead quickly to spot the good footage amongst the bad) and the 1 second lag that FCP experiences in its viewer makes using an external monitor almost worthless. There has already been countless captures where I have stepped away from the computer only to come back and find that the capture has had an error and must start over again (some of them timecode errors, when the timecode seems to be fine. Is this a GOP issue??? Some are strange errors where FCP searches for the footage for about 15 minutes without finding the clip it is looking for). All in all this has been a pretty bad experience.
I just wanted to give a heads up to anyone thinking that this new FCP support will make working with HDV 24p alot easier.
I have read alot of posts that most editors prefer to capture HDV as DVCPro HD using a capture card. Does anybody have any suggestions as to a good card that would allow me: to convert HDV to DVCPro HD, capture video game footage from another computer as DVCProHD and possibly have an HDMI input as well? We do alot of work that requires screen and game captures from a PC.
My CPU is: PowerPC G5 Quad processor 2.5 GHz
4 GB memory
Running FCP 5.1.2Any help would be great! Thanks!
PS: Sorry for the really long post. I needed to vent a little.
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>and the 1 second lag that FCP experiences in its viewer makes using an external monitor almost worthless.
Just curious. How are you able to view HDV on a external monitor? Can you be a bit more specific about your set up?
Michael Horton
lafcpug
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[Paul Ladd] “and the 1 second lag that FCP experiences in its viewer makes using an external monitor almost worthless. There has already been countless captures where I have stepped away from the computer only to come back and find that the capture has had an error and must start over again (some of them timecode errors, when the timecode seems to be fine. Is this a GOP issue???”
1 second lag. How are you viewing this to your external monitor? Through a deck? If so, that lag is normal. You need a capture card like the AJA Kona series to view the image in realtime out to an external monitor.
As for timecode errors, that goes with HDV. I have 14 hours of material that we originally captured as HDV and I got TC errors and other “Cannot read data” errors throughout all the tapes.
We went back and recaptured everything as DVCPro HD through my Kona 3 card and simply set the deck up for DV control and got zero TC errors or any other kind of errors.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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I am capturing straight from a JVC GY HD100 camera (I know that capturing from the camera is a really bad idea, but its just something that needed to be done on this project). I am capturing via firewire and viewing externally using the video out on the camera to my HD monitor’s AV input. Technically it isn’t HD viewing with this set-up, but the quality is still very good, but the lag is frustrating.
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[Paul Ladd] “Technically it isn’t HD viewing with this set-up, but the quality is still very good, but the lag is frustrating.”
There’s no way to get rid of that lag viewing the footage that way unfortunately.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Yeah, like Walter says you need a capture card such as a Kona or Decklink HD. Interesting set up though.
Michael Horton
lafcpug
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[walter biscardi] “We went back and recaptured everything as DVCPro HD through my Kona 3 card and simply set the deck up for DV control and got zero TC errors or any other kind of errors.”
That’s the ONLY reliable way to use HDV. I’ve been using this method for the past year without a hitch. Works very well.
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Wayne Carey
Schazam Productions
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[Wayne Carey] “That’s the ONLY reliable way to use HDV. I’ve been using this method for the past year without a hitch. Works very well.”
Give that man an AMEN! AMEN brother!
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Thanks for the help! I’ll be doing some shopping for a good capture card.
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