HDcam SR edit to tape woes…. Any advice?

[Ben Holmes]

You may have tried everything but is deck control on? Is it set correctly (you can pop open log and capture to check)? Is RS-422 cable on correct port on tape deck.

Sometimes we miss little steps. However, I have had edit to tape not respond before. Usually a restart cures it, or trashing prefs.

Ben

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[Matt Devino]

Are the edit to tape/assemble windows in the edit to tape tool greyed out? I’ve had this problem with D5 decks before (can’t get a straight answer from apple or blackmagic as to why) but what works for me is changing the tab up top in your edit to tape tool from editing to mastering then back to editing. If that doesn’t work I change my device control in the edit to tape window, then change it back to what I need it to be. Usually this fixes my problem. Hope it helps.

[Jhaughey]

thanks for the advice fellas… I’ve tried and tested those methods as well, still no joy… but thanks anyway….
Under further investigation and chatting on the phone to aja, arri etc, we’re starting to think its a software thing within the deck…
When I find out I’ll post the reason..

Joe Haughey
https://www.pogofilms.com

[Joseph Owens]

I might not be directly helpful in addressing your issue with SRW-1… in fact I own/operate an SRW-5500 through a Kona3 card and it works great. Some strange little behaviours on a semi-occasional basis but nothing that a quick re-set or simply re-booting the Edit-to-Tape window doesn’t fix.

JPO

[Jhaughey]

Cheers JP,
turns out that the SRW1, since its software was upgraded from version one to version 2 last november, it’s no longer capable of recording from an edit suite… So the 5500 it is… At least I’m glad to know that’ll work…

Thanks all for your help.

Joe Haughey
https://www.pogofilms.com

[Gary Adcock]

[JHaughey] “urns out that the SRW1, since its software was upgraded from version one to version 2 last november, it’s no longer capable of recording from an edit suite…”

Funny JP

I was reading and writing 1080p60 to an SRW1 during NAB from a Kona 3 cards and FCP6.
Full deck control via 9 pin, with frame accurate insets. All I know is I had to have the deck shipped direct from Sony. so maybe there is a newer service upgrade.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

[Jhaughey]

I also neglected to mention we’re in PAL world..
I finally got through to a guy at Sony who said: “Since V2.00 only editing functions as a PLAYER have been implemented for control of the
SRW-1 over RS422. Operation as an edit RECORDER is not supported, so a
studio deck (SRW-5500) will be required.”

I don’t know if he meant across the board, ie all framerates, but certainly 25psf. Strange, you would think a hire company would be aware of such developments….

Joe Haughey
https://www.pogofilms.com

[Gary Adcock]

[JHaughey] “. Operation as an edit RECORDER is not supported, so a
studio deck (SRW-5500) will be required.” “

this makes no Sense

The recording head of the SRW -1 is built as a stand alone recorder module that mounts on Viper, Genesis, and the F23. That it cannot do record functions is absurd. you are talking to the wrong person at sony.

and it should NOT matter that you are working on the integer (25.0) side of the world.

gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows

[Philip Richardson]

Hello

Phil here, i work with Joe at Pogo and it was myself that spoke to Arri and Sony man!

The deck seems to be heavily dependent upon it’s software version, which if you don’t mind me saying, is Sony protecting it’s interests.
ANyhow, version 1.1 would allow deck controlled recording in an edit environment, however, it did not support any of the “Pal Orientated” HD frame rates.

Version 2.2 does support those frame rates but does not support Edit Record functions through RS-422. Certainly not for 25PsF and maybe for other rates too.

If it wasn’t for issues of privacy I would give this guys number for you to phone but i have to take it as gospel as much as i can. I lost three days in research, phone calls and experimenting trying to get this to work and it did not. It was clearly an RS422 issue and what the Sony man said makes sense to me.

Why manufacture a field deck that performs perfectly well in an edit suite when you produce a similar model for the studio? I think it’s an issue of economics and probably somewhere in marketing someone said “By heck, disable that immediately!”

Thank you for all of the help, everyone.

Philip Richardson
MD Pogo Films Ltd.