HD Color correction monitor

[Shane Ross]

FSI 2461. They have a link on the side of this page. Or go here: https://www.shopfsi.com/?Click=72

I am sitting in front of one now…LOVE it. 24″ is $5000. 17″ is $2500.

Shane

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[Jussi Buckbee]

Shane,

Just read an interesting way-back-in-2008 HD monitor discussion where you and bunch of others talked about TVLogic being a good candidate for a HD monitor (cc critical, broadcast quality). Just landed on this FSI monitor thread, and was wondering your take on FSI vs TVLogic. I reside in Finland and FSI monitors are a bit hard to find here. TVLogic would be more available. Which one would you recommend? Any suggestion on TVLogic models?

Best…jb

JBuckbee – Finland – PAL

[Shane Ross]

FSI and TVLogic use the same LCD panels. FSI touts more options, and a cheaper price. I like FSI better than TVLogic.

Shane

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[Bram Desmet]

Hi JB, just FYI Flanders Scientific ships direct to customers worldwide in over 140 different countries, including Finland, so if you do decide to get the FSI LM-2461W you can get the unit easily and quickly.

Keep in mind that for $4,995 (LM-2461W) you get a unit that is 10 bit and has 12 different scope modes, something worth considering when comparing to other units in this same price range. At any rate I am obviously not the most objective source for comparison information, but if you do have any questions for us at all feel free to contact us directly and we will be happy to answer your questions to the best of our ability.

Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
http://www.FlandersScientific.com

[Bram Desmet]

Hi Shane, that used to be the case with the LM-2450W, but the LM-2461W does not use the same panel as TVLogic. Our unit, at just $4,995, is wide gamut (102% NTSC) and has a 10 bit color depth (1.073 Billion Colors).

Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
http://www.FlandersScientific.com

[Jussi Buckbee]

Thanks for the comment Shane.

Bram, objectivity is where I’m aiming, at least
what comes to quality and control. Your option
is tempting, yet – as you might’ve heard before –
not as feasible due to customs and taxes.

When are you planning on finding a rep here in
EU? If you want to start small, I’m your
best bet – I’m a one man company 😉

Will give your product a thought, never-the-less.

br…jb

JBuckbee – Finland – PAL

[Bram Desmet]

Hi JB, typically you have to pay taxes whether you buy locally or from us and even with customs and shipping added in I think most people would agree that our product is quite competitively priced for a wide gamut 10 bit monitor with standard 3Gbps SDI inputs.

FSI has no plans to add reps anywhere at this point because we still have the capacity to and prefer to offer support and assistance directly. Adding a local rep in your country would NOT make the unit cost less. Our list pricing was set without the normal addition of extra padding for dealer margin because we wanted to build a direct to end user business model from the very beginning. Quite to the contrary it would likely increase the cost because we would have to raise our prices to include dealer margin and remember that such a dealer would still be responsible for shipping and customs charges.

Anyway, this is no place for a hard sell on our part and that is not our style anyway, but I would encourage you to price out your ‘landed cost’ for your local options vs our units (https://www.ShopFSI.com has shipping costs) and compare features with your other options to see how things really stack up.

Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
http://www.FlandersScientific.com

[Jussi Buckbee]

Thanks for your input Bram. You have an interesting and admirable business strategy. Economics and business aside, I remain pondering my options. Wish you all the best. Jb

[Jesse Glucksman]

Hi, Bram. I found this thread and am so happy to find a conversation about monitors for color grading that isn’t from 2008. I’m an LA-based colorist looking to jump from CRTs to something more modern and the 2461 seems like a great one. Someone else in this threat mentioned there was a 17″ version that has the same features–is that the LM-1760W, and are there any major differences between the two other than the size?

Thanks,
-Jesse

[Bram Desmet]

The LM-1760W and LM-2461W do share virtually identical feature sets as they use the same core processing chip. However, there are some significant differences worth noting:

1. The LM-1760W is only 1366×768 resolution whereas the LM-2461W is native 1920×1200 resolution.
2. The LM-1760W basically has a native Rec 709 color gamut. The LM-2461W has a much wider native color gamut and is therefore equipped with our CFE (Color Fidelity Engine) board, which is basically a 3D LUT board allowing the monitor to instantly switch between Rec 709, EBU, SMPTE, DCI P3, and native wide gamut modes. Because the LM-2461W is precisely carving out its operating color spaces you get the greatest accuracy with that unit.
3. Both the LM-1760W and LM-2461W can process 10 bit video signals, but the LM-2461W is native 10 bit whereas the LM-2461W is native 10 bit (16.7 Million Colors vs. 1.073 Billion Colors).
4. The LM-2461W has better off-axis viewing, better black levels, and higher overall contrast thanks to its newer H-IPS panel technology vs. the S-IPS panel technology found on the LM-1760W.

Both are great monitors, but for any sort of high-end color correction or other very color critical workflows we recommend the LM-2461W.

Another thing to consider is that if you do not have the budget for an LM-2461W then the new LM-2140W (21.5″) monitor would actually be a better choice for you than the LM-1760W. These units are the same price, but the LM-2140W gives you more for your money (native 1920×1080, 3Gbps SDI, larger screen, lower power consumption, lighter weight, etc.).

You may want to give us a call directly or shoot us an email if you want more of a detailed ‘sales pitch’…I try my best to avoid that on informational forums like this though I’m happy to answer any specific questions as forum users see fit.

Bram Desmet
FSI (Flanders Scientific, Inc.)
http://www.FlandersScientific.com